I tēnei, te tuarua o ngā pāhorangi, ka whakawhiti kōrero a Karley Hemopo rāua ko Charles Rolleston mō ngā āhuatanga o tā Charles whakairi i āna mahi hei kaiako ki te whai i ngā mahi ki ngā tari Kāwanatanga.

In the second of a series of podcasts, Karley Hemopo discusses whether or not the grass is greener on the other side of the classroom with Charles Rolleston, who put away his lesson plans to explore a career in the public service.