Linda Moulton Howe reports on mysterious phone calls and electronic interference experienced by UFO witnesses, while Jordan Maxwell exposes hidden occult influences within organized religion. Howe documents cases where abduction experiencers receive threatening calls from unidentified sources who possess intimate knowledge of their encounters, suggesting surveillance by unknown parties. Maxwell argues that major religions contain evidence of ancient contact with non-human entities who manipulated human spiritual development for their own purposes. The discussion examines how religious symbols, rituals, and texts may preserve memories of extraterrestrial intervention disguised as divine revelation. Art Bell explores Maxwell's controversial thesis that humanity has been controlled by non-human intelligences through religious institutions for millennia. Maxwell presents linguistic and historical evidence that biblical accounts describe technological rather than supernatural phenomena, including spacecraft, genetic engineering, and advanced energy weapons. The conversation delves into connections between ancient Sumerian texts, modern UFO encounters, and the systematic suppression of humanity's true origins. This episode challenges fundamental assumptions about both spiritual beliefs and the nature of human development throughout recorded history.