The very last in our installment of live podcasts that I did at the almighty Outbreak Fest in June of 2022 in front of a live audience. These two chats were awesome and of course, with great people involved in independent music. The first one is with Mat Kerekes from Citizen in which we discuss video games, working out and UK audiences. Then, I chat with Isa Holliday from Slow Crush as they were wrapping up a whirlwind world tour that was so ambitious I admired it from afar. We got into her background, why they love guitar pedals and a lot more. 

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