Jeff was joined Mike Gordon, the founder of Chilkoot Charlie's! They discuss his recent autobiography, "Learning the Ropes." It's a very personal reflection on his awesome life in Alaska. They discuss how he got into the bar business in the 70s, his cocaine addiction, why he got into mountain climbing, some of his ascents that included Denali, Aconcagua, and Vinson Massif, how wild Anchorage was in the 70s, how he struggled with his marriages, and what he is currently doing. This is a must listen.