Sanjay Sujanthakumar interviews reigning NWSL defender of the year Naomi Girma (perhaps the USWNT's top centerback now?) about everything from her Ethiopian-American upbringing to her academic work in "symbolic systems." And then Greg and Belz recap the two friendlies against Germany. Last non-USMNT episode before we happily enter the World Cup gauntlet.

#340: Naomi Girma joins the pod, plus we break down the Germany friendlies

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The former Ajax and USMNT midfielder, a key player in the 2002 World Cup quarterfinal run, joins Belz for a conversation that touches on, among other things, how the Dutch trained total football in the late 1990s, playing for Bruce Arena, the goal v Portugal, some of the innovative stuff John is working on in his psychology practice in Colorado, and the extent to which club academies have a responsibility to develop not just soccer players but whole people and functioning adults.

#485: John O'Brien joins the pod

Vince and Tara report on their visit to lovely Columbus for the She Believes final victory over Canada, a rundown of the best young talent in NWSL, and Olympics roster discussion.

#484: WoSo — Boots on ground in Columbus, Olympics roster, young guns in NWSL

Another She Believes trophy for the cabinet. Some good progress in this camp, a midfield setup that works, and we now look forward to the real beginning of the Emma Hayes era.

#483: USWNT v Canada recap

Hey! A giant leap forward from the soccer we watched at the W Gold Cup last month. Combinations, lots of chances, Mal Swanson back from with the NT and as dynamic as ever, very little created by Japan (a good team) outside the first 30 seconds. Full recap/celebration of a very good performance as the Olympics draw near.

#482 — USWNT v Japan recap

Lots of European and NWSL action to catch up on, Korbin Albert's TikTok reposts and her long-range strikes for PSG, Mallory Swanson scores, Sam Coffey scores, Claire Hutton shines, and potential XIs vs Japan on Saturday.

#340: Naomi Girma joins the pod, plus we break down the Germany friendlies

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