Rowan Sanderson sits down with Nick Benger, an expert dog trainer known for his appearance on Amazon's TV series "The Pack". He is also the host of the Dog Talk with Nick Benger Podcast. Nick walks us through his natural training methods.

The term “natural training” is often misunderstood to mean taking advantage of your dog’s instincts to the point of harming them just to get them to learn a new trick.

Nick says that natural training “should be more about relationships”. Owners, he believes, must always try to strengthen the bond they have with their dogs.

Listen in as Rowan and Nick discuss what types of punishment are acceptable in natural dog training and how to incentivize your dog to exhibit healthy behaviors without having to resort to punishment in the first place.