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What if the church’s health could be seen in the air—balanced, steady, and lifting—because evangelism and discipleship finally fly on two wings? That image frames a rich conversation with Pastor Jim about a calling forged in the Navy, nineteen years of waiting that taught presence over programs, and a pastoral philosophy where outreach grows from love of souls and discipleship is built on clear, human-scale spaces.

We walk through stories that make theology tactile: remembering a visitor’s name that changed her posture, and why names matter from Genesis to the book of life. We sketch a practical discipleship pathway patterned after Jesus and extended by Paul—corporate worship for the whole church, community groups for belonging, D-groups for depth, and an institute for leaders. Along the way, we distinguish teaching centers from community centers so people arrive with the right expectations and leave with real formation. For pastors and volunteers who feel stretched thin, we tackle the input–output problem, the difference between eloquence and unction, and the hard-won wisdom to never hit send on a Monday resignation. Endurance, we argue, springs from closeness to Christ, living for the unseen “Well done,” and resting in grace even in weeks stacked with sermons and funerals.

If your heart longs for a church that loves the lost and feeds the sheep, that says names with care and opens homes with joy, this conversation offers a map and the motivation to walk it. We also introduce New Day Mercies, a daily encouragement stream of Scripture, short devotionals, and video reflections designed to flood tired feeds with good news. Subscribe, share with a friend who leads, and tell us: which space in your discipleship pathway needs attention this season?

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