Family is almost always complicated. Whether yours is small, large, united, dispersed, chosen, young, or old, you’ve probably experienced both the joys and difficulties of being related to others. And there’s no time like Christmas, for both the happiest moments and the painful points. In this episode, we chat with Matt Atkins, who is currently the lead pastor of a missional community called Mosaic church and he is the Sr. Financial Advisor at Clearbrook Investment Management. Matt, and his wife Laura have been married for 38 years and have 5 children, 4 grandchildren, with #5 on the way. Being a father and grandfather is his greatest love and the most important part of his life and his way of relating to family as a follower of Jesus is as inspirational as can be.