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“Never Say Neverland Again” (with Leo Kalyan)

Wherever pop culture and politics collide, Ira Madison III and Louis Virtel are on hand to examine the gorgeous wreckage from their uniquely queer perspective. Each week, our “Princes of Pop Culture” are joined by the likes of Michelle Yeoh, Hunter Doohan, John Boyega, Connie Britton, Gabrielle Union, and Sheryl Lee Ralph to unpack the latest controversies, laude character actress appreciation, and all the shade that’s fit to throw. New episodes drop every Wednesday.

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Ira and Louis discuss Taylor Swift's polarizing 11th studio album The Tortured Poets Department, Katy Perry's doing promo for Elon Musk, tired J Lo jokes, and more. Julia Canfield joins to discuss starring in and learning to become a rock musician for Broadway's Stereophonic, lasting memories of Succession, and her favorite Fleetwood Mac songs.

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Taylor Swift's The Tortured Poets Department with Juliana Canfield

Ira and Louis discuss Coachella 2024, OJ Simpson’s death and other celeb scandals, and more. Nick Offerman joins to discuss his new film Civil War, his creative influences, and being half of comedy’s funniest couple.

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Coachella, OJ Simpson with Nick Offerman

Ira and Louis discuss Jojo Siwa’s rebrand and alleged invention of “Gay Pop,” Sex and the City’s Netflix arrival, Ripley, and Jerrod Carmichael’s show. Carla Gugino joins to discuss The Girls on the Bus, her start in 80s multi-cams, working with Robert Rodriguez and Brian DePalma, and more.



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Jojo Siwa, Sex and the City, & Ripley with Carla Gugino

Ira, Louis, and guest host Kendra James discuss Beyoncé’s sprawling new album Cowboy Carter. Justice Smith joins Ira and Louis to discuss the American Society of Magical Negroes, critical responses to the film, and more. Plus, Nicki Minaj’s Pink Friday 2 World Tour and the internet’s debate on hot SNL cast members.

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Beyoncé’s Cowboy Carter with Justice Smith and Kendra James

Ira and Louis discuss Beyoncé’s impending album Cowboy Carter and other artists who’ve shifted genres, nun horror flick Immaculate and other nun-related films, the Chateau Marmont, 2024 bingo cards, and responses to Kate Middleton’s announcement. The Veronicas join to discuss their new album Gothic Summer, their film influences, and more.

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“Never Say Neverland Again” (with Leo Kalyan)

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