Nik Wallenda, record-setting high wire artist and author of the new book Facing Fear, discusses finding a passion for performing at an early age and how he worked to reinvent his act in order to better connect with the masses.

Wallenda and host of #ThePlaybook, David Meltzer, chat about a range of topics including the challenge that comes with performing stunts which have proven to be deadly, the difference between nerves and fear, as well as how to practice countering negativity with positive thoughts. The pair also talk about how they define fear in their lives and what happens to leaders who aren’t willing to face their fears.