The Athletic's Ben Standig is back for a bonus episode of the podcast with New York Daily News columnist Pat Leonard heading into Thursday's NFC East clash between the Washington football team and the New York Giants. Ben sets the stage with thoughts on Taylor Heinicke as QB1 and other WFT notes. Then Pat enters the fray for his views on Big Blue after their Week 1 loss including the bad -- and good -- with Daniel Jones, why the Giants fan base is extra salty now, and the formation that should bode well for Washington's chances.

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