Will Lou is joined by Michael Pina of The Ringer for an early look at O.G.’s case for Defensive Player of the Year and whether the award should start to reward more non-bigs. The two also chat about the other DPOY candidates and if Brooklyn had a sneaky-good offseason. Later, Sportsnet's Alvin Williams drops by to chat about Fred’s performance so far this season and why players care so much about being in the starting lineup (28:26). 

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