Kellie-Jane Keen-Minshull came to Aotearoa and had a BAD TIME. John has asked three trans folks and a cis woman to talk about attending the protest in Tamaki-makau-rau, the trans rights rally in Pōneke and Ōtautahi, and their views on this issue. These voices are not often heard in NZ media, so we'll do it instead.

Our theme music is New Opportunities by Motion Productions.