In this deeply moving episode, Dr. Claunch and Pastor Jim Hennessy speak candidly about the journey of ministers, pastors, and Christians as they learn to process pain in the presence of God. From personal struggles to the weight of spiritual leadership, they explore how faith intersects with suffering—and how God's presence becomes a place of healing, restoration, and transformation. Whether you're in ministry, walking through a season of hardship, or simply seeking deeper spiritual insight, this conversation offers wisdom, encouragement, and hope.