How much money does it take to invest in real estate? Is there really such a thing as “no- or low-money down?” After you hear today’s interview, you’ll know the truth! Today we sit down with Shiloh Lundahl, a real estate investor who specializes in putting together deals using a variety of different no- and low-money strategies in some pretty unique combinations. From utilizing business lines of credit, to bringing in partners, to hard money, to lease options and beyond, this episode will give you tons of ammunition for your own creative finance deals. And don’t miss the incredible strategy that Shiloh uses today to make 300 percent more per deal than if he were to flip the home. It’s pretty darn fantastic!
In This Episode We Cover:

How Shiloh started his real estate investing journey

The book that helped him heal

Details about his first property



Office hacking and subleasing a sublease

His first flipping deal — $30K turned to $195K

How he bought his dream car


Losing $5K on his first flip


A hack with city inspectors


The importance of needing an assistant


The six different strategies he uses creatively

Moving to a lease-option model


Getting $800K in business lines of credit



Lease options and how he uses them

Selling properties 5–7 percent higher than the current ARV

Explaining lease option through videos

And SO much more!

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Long Distance Real Estate Investing by David Greene


Rich Dad, Poor Dad by Robert Kiyosaki


Rich Dad’s CASHFLOW Quadrant by Robert Kiyosaki


The Book on Investing with Low or No Money Down by Brandon Turner


The Richest Man in Babylon by George S. Clason


Shoe Dog by Phil Knight

Fire Round Questions

I’m a little confused between lease option, lease purchase, and subject to. Doesn’t the existing financing stay in place for all three?

Have you ever done a lease option agreement with seller for 6 months and lease option the property to buyer for 3 months?

Lease Option Contract vs Rental Agreement & separate Option Agreement

Am I crazy for considering a lease option to get out from under a low performing property?

When you are lease optioning homes to tenants/buyers, what percentage actually end up exercising the options?

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287: Putting Together Real Estate Deals Using Creativity Instead of Cash with Shiloh Lundahl

On the BiggerPockets Real Estate Podcast, co-hosts David Greene and Rob Abasolo interview real estate investors and entrepreneurs about successes, failures, and hard-earned lessons. Through in-depth conversations, 1-on-1 listener coaching calls, and news analysis, you’ll get a breakdown of real strategies that work for different niches and experience levels. Tune into the #1 real estate investing podcast every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday.

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If there’s one thing that’ll make or break your real estate portfolio, it’s property management. When done correctly, property management can feed you consistent, passive income without the everyday stressors of being a landlord. Whenever you hear people talking about bad tenants, midnight phone calls, or surprise maintenance problems, they’re really talking about property management gone wrong. So, how does a rookie real estate investor, with even just one rental property, start managing the right way so they can scale their portfolio faster? 
Amelia McGee and Grace Gudenkauf, authors of The Self-Managing Landlord, did it all wrong initially. They were picking up every tenant phone call, placing every service request, taking rent payments every which way, and here’s the thing—none of it was working. As they scaled their portfolios, things only got more difficult until finally, one day, they stopped and developed a system, and like that, their businesses took off.
Now, only a few years into real estate investing, both Amelia and Grace have dozens of rental units to their names and less stress than ever before. How did they do it all WITHOUT hiring everything out to a property manager? In today’s show, they’ll share the self-managing principles they used to explode their rental portfolios while staying sane! And if you’re a new investor or are about to be one, these tips could save you YEARS of headaches!
In This Episode We Cover:
Why EVERY real estate investor should be self-managing when building their portfolio
How to start building your property management “system” that’ll save you HOURS a week
What brand new investors NEED to start doing once they have their first property
Three apps/software that every real estate investor should have
Tenant selection 101 and simple mistakes that could cost you months of rent 
How to know it's time to start outsourcing and signs you need some help
And So Much More!
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(00:00) Intro
(01:48) EVERYONE Should Self-Manage
(04:06) How Bad Management Burns YOU
(09:31) Start Doing This NOW
(14:08) Tips for Your First Rental Property
(19:26) 3 Apps/Software You Need
(22:44) Tenant Selection and Screening
(26:56) Outsourcing vs. DIY
(32:21) When to Hire it Out
(36:11) Grab the Book!

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938: Scaling from 0 to 20+ Doors Using These "Self-Management" Tools & Tips w/Amelia McGee and Grace Gudenkauf

Should I pay off my rental property or reinvest? How do I replace my six-figure salary with cash flow from real estate investing? And what’s the best way to analyze crime BEFORE I invest in an area? You asked, and we’re here to answer on this episode of Seeing Greene as we take questions from rookie real estate investors, veterans in the rental property game, and everyone in between. If you want to scale your portfolio faster or quit your job with real estate, this is the place to be!
First, we take a question from a high-earner asking whether they should pay off their rental properties OR use their extra money to build a bigger portfolio faster. A fledgling house hacker wants to know the best way to analyze an investing area for crime now that many online listing websites have taken down this data. A business owner is struggling to find real estate write-offs and asks for help, and a rental property investor needs to know which commercial real estate investment boasts the biggest cash flow. Finally, an anonymous question comes in from a techie who’s about to lose their job. How can they replace their six-figure income with rental properties fast?
Want to ask David a question? If so, submit your question here so David can answer it on the next episode of Seeing Greene. Hop on the BiggerPockets forums and ask other investors their take, or follow David on Instagram to see when he’s going live so you can jump on a live Q&A and get your question answered on the spot! 
In This Episode We Cover:
Whether to pay off your mortgages early or reinvest to build a bigger portfolio
Replacing your salary with real estate income and why you may want to get a job instead 
How to analyze an investment area for crime with limited online data 
The short-term rental tax loophole that could save you a TON on taxes
Will an ADU (accessory dwelling unit) add value to your property on an appraisal?
Cash-flowing commercial real estate investments and why top investors pay attention to something else 
And So Much More!
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937: Seeing Greene: Paying Off Rentals, Estimating Crime, & Replacing Your Salary

Want to know how to invest in real estate with NO money down? Or, maybe you’ve got a bit of cash in the bank and think now is the time to get into the real estate investing game. No matter where you’re at or how much money you have, we’re bringing you four ways to invest in real estate with no money AND low money in 2024. Does it sound too good to be true? Thankfully, this is just how real estate works and our expert investor hosts can back up the facts—these methods CAN be done with little or no money down.
Some of these strategies will get you in the game, making cash flow every month, EVEN without owning a rental property. Others will allow you to put very little money down to buy your first house, but you must be willing to follow a few rules. We’ll also get into the short-term rental side hustle that has landlords pay YOU for managing their property and exactly how Rob scored a three percent interest rate (in TODAY’s market) while putting very little money down on a property.
Don’t let money stop you from starting your investing journey! Combine a few of these strategies, and you could have a cash-flowing rental property portfolio in just a few years’ time!

In This Episode We Cover:
How to start a real estate business without owning a single property!
The exact method Rob used to score a three percent interest rate in 2024
How to buy one house every year using these low-money-down loans
Real estate partnerships 101 and how to invest using other people’s money 
The property management side hustle for short-term rentals that could help you save up a down payment
And So Much More!
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How to Buy a Rental Property With No Money: 10 Strategies for Real Estate Investors


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936: 4 Ways to Start Investing in Real Estate with NO or LOW Money

Mortgage rates are high, supply is low, and inflation just won’t go away. These market conditions make investing in real estate harder than ever…or so most investors think. The truth? This housing market isn’t all that different from years past, and if you know which moves to make, you can get ahead of all the other investors without them noticing. What do we mean? We’ve got a seasoned investor with over thirty years of rental property experience on the show, ready to share how buying during “high” rates can be a huge advantage.
But that’s not all we’re getting into on this BiggerNews episode. We’ve got questions directly from BiggerPockets listeners that we’re throwing at expert investor Kathy Fettke to see what time-tested advice she’d give. First, a listener wants to know why mortgage rates aren’t falling and how to get into the real estate investing game during a time like this. Then, we discuss how investors can save themselves against inflation. With a spike in part-time work, could the American economy be showing signs of weakness? Finally, we answer the question everyone has on their minds: Is it the darn millennials’ fault for causing these high home prices?
Want to ask a question for a future BiggerNews episode? Post your question in the BiggerPockets forums and get answers from a community of over 2,000,000 real estate investors!
In This Episode We Cover:
Mortgage rates explained and why interest rates are staying so high
Sneaky ways to snag a LOW interest rate in 2024 (Kathy got 4.75%!)
The best hedge against inflation and how to protect the money you have
Rising part-time work and whether or not this is a recession warning sign 
Did millennials cause this unaffordable housing market?
And So Much More!
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935: BiggerNews: Investing with High Rates, Stubborn Inflation, & Low Supply w/Kathy Fettke

With so many real estate tax write-offs, it’s no wonder that CPA Brandon Hall says rental real estate is one of the most tax-advantaged assets on the planet. But, even with so much free-flowing information on how to pay less to Uncle Sam, most real estate investors are missing out on a MASSIVE tax deduction that could be saving them thousands, if not tens of thousands, on their tax bill. What’s the write-off that even our host, Dave Meyer, didn’t know about? Stick around, or walk away from a HUGE tax savings.
Brandon Hall is a real estate investor-focused CPA. He knows the deductions, write-offs, and audit red flags that could be helping or hurting you. Today, he’s walking through whether or not you need a tax professional (a LOT of people DON’T), why you need to start tax planning BEFORE you buy your first property, the biggest real estate tax write-off that most people miss, and why you should WAIT to file your taxes to see if a MASSIVE real estate tax benefit is making a much-awaited comeback.
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In This Episode We Cover:
The big real estate write-off that most investors are completely overlooking
Why you should WAIT to file your taxes in case this MASSIVE tax benefit returns
Who should (and definitely shouldn’t) be doing their own taxes 
Scaling your portfolio? Why you MUST start strategically planning your taxes now
The biggest audit red flags that are NOT worth the deduction (watch out for these!)
A bonus depreciation update and how this could save you hundreds of thousands
And So Much More!
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287: Putting Together Real Estate Deals Using Creativity Instead of Cash with Shiloh Lundahl

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