"When my motivational spectrum calls for a high degree of mastery, I do my best work when it is just a little over my head. People sometimes confuse the drive for mastery with a drive to know everything. But it's not the knowing, per se. It's not *catching* the skill, it's *chasing* the skill. My own spectrum rates mastery the highest, 9 on the scale of 10 for me. I am never more driven than when I've got some challenge I *think* I can do but I'm not *sure* I can do."

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