Heavenly Smith - Recreation Program Coordinator, Susquehanna Township - Harrisburg, PA converses about finding a career in and navigating parks and rec as a nontraditional hire, the path that lead to her being a Thirty Under Thirty winner, the benefit of implementing skills gained from other jobs in parks, and covers topics from mental health and building a support system, to successful conflict resolution and leadership coaching tactics.

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Shane Mize is the Director of Parks and Recreation in the city of Pflugerville, Texas, where he resides with his wife and children.

Tom Venniro is the 11-year Director of Parks and Recreation in Hilton-Parma, New York, where he resides with his wife Melissa, son Jack, and daughter Amelia.

Jay Tryon is an 18-year park and recreation professional who loves to improve communities and their quality of life. He currently resides in Charlotte, North Carolina, with his wife and children.