As the executive director of the Australian postgraduate research internship program at the Australian Mathematical Sciences Institute, Gary Hogan is bridging the gap between SMEs and academic research and intelligence. In this episode of the Defence Connect Podcast, Hogan joins host Phil Tarrant to discuss this little-known program and how it can, in his opinion, revolutionise the business models and outputs of various SMEs. He will talk about how SMEs can find an academic expert to solve a technical concern or innovation within their company, how this relationship is structured in terms of the created intellectual property, and how the government rebate subsidisation can reduce financial outlay. Finally, Hogan will discuss why he is such an advocate of the opportunities that the program offers, reveal his thoughts surrounding a push for more women to be involved in the sector, and how interested SMEs can utilise the services. Enjoy the podcast, The Defence Connect team