In this classic episode from the NMF archive, Cally talks to broadcaster, writer and comedian Jon Holmes about sheds, stag weekends, fails, firings, fabrications, faxes, mix tapes, origin stories, analogue vs. digital, courage, adoption, rejection, adventures and mountain gorillas.

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Music by Jake Yapp

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