Hey Y'all,

In this thought-provoking and surprisingly funny episode of Spill the Spirituality, Jaz and Trey are joined by Rowan Williams, the former Archbishop of Canterbury, to dive deep (pun intended) into the mystery of the soul.

Rowan shares why he thinks our souls are a bit like whales - vast, mysterious, and yes, sometimes smelly and messy - but full of life, wisdom, and beauty beneath the surface. Together, they unpack what spirituality looks like in the chaos of real life, how faith and doubt can coexist, and why embracing the mess might just be the most spiritual thing we can do.

This one’s equal parts poetic, profound, and unexpectedly hilarious - a reminder that even the holiest among us are just swimming through the same ocean of questions. 🌊🐋

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