This episode we speak to Enla Fees– Corporate Partnerships Manager who works for Mothers 2 Mothers whose goal it is to end paediatric aids in sub-saharan Africa. We also hear from Phumeza who is a facility mentor mother based in Cape Town .South Africa, she talks about her own personal experience of living with HIV and how she has turned her life around whilst helping her community. This story is the embodiment of empowerment through adversity.