As educators we know how much trauma students experienced during the pandemic and how much mental health support they have needed since returning to in person learning.  We also know how much support teachers need because of the burnout they are experiencing due to the secondary and tertiary trauma they experience.  School counselors are instrumental in supporting students, staff, and families, but who supports the counselors?  Each day they leave school carrying a bag full of everyone else's trauma.  In this episode I talk with Dr. Lara Donnelly about strategies counselors can use to combat feeling so depleted and strategies building leaders can use to better support their counselors.