We’re back with another installment of our conversation with Les McKeown. He is the President and CEO of Predictable Success and a consultant to companies and many different levels. In the Last episode, we talked about moving from a start-up to a scaling phase in your organization. Jennifer Martin from NorthRock Church in San Antonio, TX, joins us once again as we talk more about scaling, what Les calls Predictable Success, and what it will require of you.

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