In this powerful father–daughter conversation, Bishop T.D. Jakes sits down with Sarah Jakes Roberts for an intimate and revealing episode. From growing up as a preacher’s daughter in West Virginia to becoming a global leader, bestselling author, and CEO of Woman Evolve, Sarah opens up about the chapters that shaped her life — the trauma, the pressure, the rebirth, and the evolution. Sarah reflects on her childhood inside a rapidly rising ministry, navigating expectations, identity, and the complexity of being “normal” while the world watched her family. She shares candid memories of sibling dynamics, responsibility at a young age, and the loss of innocence that came with her teen pregnancy — a moment she calls both her deepest embarrassment and her unexpected grounding force.

Together, they dive into the emotional weight of growing up under a spotlight, the challenges of purity culture, and the internal battle between shame, worthiness, and faith. Sarah reveals how she found her voice by telling her own story, why vulnerability became her shield, and how her honesty helped millions of women find their own healing. The episode also explores her first marriage, navigating a toxic relationship, divorce, and rebuilding her identity as a young mother. Sarah and her father discuss the generational differences in communication, the unspoken expectations placed on pastor’s kids, and the quiet pressure of being called to purpose before you feel ready. They unpack fame, influence, and the loss of “normalcy,” the balance between platform and private life, and the strength required to remain authentic in a world that constantly critiques. Sarah opens up about motherhood, leadership, protecting her humanity, and why she calls herself a “forever student” — learning, evolving, and growing in real time. This emotional and deeply insightful episode is a rare look into love, leadership, faith, and family — and how healing moves through generations when honesty and grace are allowed to take the lead. 

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