Date: December 10th, 2021

Guest Skeptic: Dr. Carly Eastin is an Associate Professor, Division of Research and Evidence Based Medicine, Department of Emergency Medicine, University of Arkansas for Medical Sciences. She is also the Chair of the SAEM Evidence Based Healthcare and Implementation (EBHI) Interest Group.

Carly was a guest skeptic on the SGEM two years ago. That was in the BC Times- (Before Covid). We had the pleasure of recording a live episode of the SGEM at the University of Arkansas.  Back in 2019 we were talking about Vitamin C for sepsis (SGEM#268).

* SGEM Bottom Line: “There is not enough evidence to support the routine use of vitamin C in critically ill patients.”

Not much has changed over the last two years. There have been at least two randomized control trials published that do not support the use of Vitamin C in sepsis.

* Fujii et al (VITAMINS RCT) JAMA 2020: n=216 patients with septic shock. No statistical difference in their primary outcome for duration of time alive and free of vasopressor administration up to day 7 or the secondary outcome of 90-day mortality.

* Moskowits et al (ACTS RCT) JAMA 2020: n=205 patients with septic shock. no statistical difference in primary outcome of SOFA scores at 72 hours or the secondary outcome of 30-day mortality.

It was Dr. Paul Marik who has been a big advocate for Vitamin C sepsis. We did an SGEM episode on his before-after study (SGEM#174: Don’t Believe the Hype) with a dozen skeptics expressing their concern the results were too good to be true.

Dr. Marik has also been promoting the use of Vitamin C for COVID19. However, there is insufficient evidence to support the routine use of Vitamin C in the treatment of critically ill or non-critically ill COVID19 patients (NIH COVID19 Treatment Guidelines and Thomas et al JAMA 2021).

There is also no high-quality evidence that Vitamin C can prevent COVID19. There is a Phase II interventional randomized placebo-controlled trial testing whether treatment with Vitamin C can prevent symptoms of COVID19 (ClinicalTrials.gov).

This SGEM Xtra episode is not to talk about Vitamin C, COVID19 or even do a structured critical appraisal of a recent publication. This is an SGEM Xtra episode to pay tribute to a friend and champion of the EBM community, Dr. Rakesh Engineer.

Dr. Rakesh Engineer

Rakesh died suddenly in 2019 and the Society of Academic Emergency Medicine (SAEM) reflected upon how best to honour him. SAEM decided to name an award after Rakesh, focusing on his passion for implementation science.

Dr. Chris Carpenter knew Rakesh well and was asked to give a brief introduction to those who did not know him. You can listen to his introduction at this LINK.

Chris Carpenter: “[Rakesh] was a devoted husband and dedicated father to three sons.  He was born in Cleveland, Ohio and attended Ohio State University where he earned both his Bachelors and MD.