Welcome to the Seamless Podcast with Darin Andersen and co-host Grant Fewsmith. This episode will feature a discussion with Shelley Zimmerman, former Chief of Police for the city of San Diego. She will talk about her 35 year career which began in 1982 and how as a woman, she rose through the ranks to become the Chief of Police. We will hear her perspective as it pertains to the Smart City concept, her take on San Diego and what is she doing now.