TechMagic with Cathy Hackl

Smart Glasses, Policy and State of AI in DC, Nintendo Glitches, Salesforce’s AI Leap, and Meta vs. OpenAI with Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler


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On this TechMagic episode, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler break down the latest trends shaping our AI-powered future, as well as the policy and state of AI in DC. From Meta’s $100M AI recruitment strategies to their game-changing partnerships with Oakley and Prada for smart glasses, the duo explores how AI and hardware innovation are converging. They unpack the ethical and emotional nuances of human-AI relationships, the rise of AI-generated content, and how companies like Salesforce are integrating AI into core operations. Additionally, they discuss the Nintendo Switch 2’s distribution challenges and Meta’s ambitious hardware plans. Whether it’s corporate AI integration, wearable tech, or the battle for AI talent, this episode offers a sharp look at the risks and opportunities driving tech’s next chapter.


Come for the Tech, stay for the Magic!


Cathy Hackl Bio

Cathy Hackl is a globally recognized tech & gaming executive, futurist, and speaker focused on spatial computing, virtual worlds, augmented reality, AI, strategic foresight, and gaming platforms strategy. She’s one of the top tech voices on LinkedIn and is the CEO of Spatial Dynamics, a spatial computing and AI solutions company, including gaming. 


Cathy has worked at Amazon Web Services (AWS), Magic Leap, and HTC VIVE and has advised companies like Nike, Ralph Lauren, Walmart, Louis Vuitton, and Clinique on their emerging tech and gaming journeys. She has spoken at Harvard Business School, MIT, SXSW, Comic-Con, WEF Annual Meeting in Davos 2023, CES, MWC, Vogue’s Forces of Fashion, and more. 


Cathy Hackl on LinkedIn

Spatial Dynamics on LinkedIn



Lee Kebler Bio


Lee has been at the forefront of blending technology and entertainment since 2003, creating advanced studios for icons like Will.i.am and producing music for Britney Spears and Big & Rich. Pioneering in VR since 2016, he has managed enterprise data at Nike, led VR broadcasting for Intel at the Japan 2020 Olympics, and driven large-scale marketing campaigns for Walmart, Levi’s, and Nasdaq. A TEDx speaker on enterprise VR, Lee is currently authoring a book on generative AI and delving into splinternet theory and data privacy as new tech laws unfold across the US.


Lee Kebler on LinkedIn


Key Discussion Topics:


  • 00:00 Welcome to Tech Magic with Cathy Hackl & Lee Kebler
  • 04:12 The Dangers of AI Relationships: Why We Need Human Connection
  • 11:18 AI Regulation Debate: States' Rights vs Federal Control
  • 15:13 DC's Rising Role as a Tech Power Center
  • 23:54 Meta's Quest 3S Xbox Edition: A Game-Changing Partnership
  • 28:40 Nintendo Switch 2's Success and Hardware Challenges
  • 36:50 Meta vs OpenAI: The $100M Talent War
  • 43:12 Meta's Smart Glasses Evolution: Oakley & Prada Partnership
  • 48:00 Coming Next Week: Dating Robots & AI Love Stories

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