In Episode 12 of Space for Faith, Matt sits down with Dustin Eskelsen — the State Director of MUFON Utah, a Field Investigator, and a key member of MUFON’s Experiencer Resource Team — for one of the most wide-ranging and insightful conversations yet.

If you’ve been curious about the UFO/UAP phenomenon, the experiencer community, or how people of faith can make sense of extraordinary encounters, this podcast is a must-listen.

Dustin brings years of investigative experience, countless field cases, and a compassionate approach to experiencers who report contact, sightings, or high-strangeness events. In this conversation, Matt and Dustin explore:

• The reality of the UAP phenomenon and why the evidence keeps pointing toward something genuine and unexplained
• Dustin’s role as State Director of MUFON Utah and the unique sightings in the region
• What the Experiencer Resource Team does and how Dustin responds to people navigating frightening, confusing, or transformative encounters
• Patterns in abduction and close-contact reports, including the themes that show up again and again

Dustin shares thoughtful guidance on how to support someone who has had an anomalous experience, and why humility is essential when dealing with the unknown. Whether you’re a believer, skeptic, or someone cautiously exploring the topic, Dustin’s experience brings clarity to a field often misunderstood.

This episode is perfect for listeners searching for:
• MUFON interviews
• UAP and UFO investigation insights
• Experiencer and abduction resources
• Faith-based perspectives on extraterrestrial life
• Utah UFO sightings
• High-strangeness stories
• Practical advice for those trying to make sense of a personal encounter
• The intersection of spirituality, science, and the anomalous

If you’re intrigued by the UAP phenomenon or you’re looking for a thoughtful, grounded conversation that bridges science, mystery, and faith, this episode offers depth, compassion, and real investigative experience from someone on the front lines.