Conflict. Destruction. No matter how optimistic one is about human nature, the world is also full of war and wherever there is war, there is documentation of it: not least in the photograph, the frontline’s witness to the world. 

This episode features for the first time the full conversation between two giants of journalism on the topic of conflict, Lionel Barber, former Editor of the Financial Times, and Funmi Iyanda, acclaimed Nigerian journalist, presenter and filmmaker.