Taking some time off the grid (with Nick Gray of Phandroid)

Nick Gray returns to the show all rested up after taking a few days to get away from all of the craziness in tech these past few weeks. JV talks with him about the importance of taking some time off the grid, before putting him right back on it to talk about further Apple vs Epic Games news and the Galaxy Note 20 Ultra!

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Music by pine voc: cell division - music for smartphones

"smartphone" and "app store"

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