20: Talking about the show on the show

We're about to take a short break! This episode is about where the show has been and where it is going. John sings the praises of incrementalism. Our list of dream guests is getting long.

Links:

- [Fits + Starts Listener Survey](https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1NF2G-it-vfvxLwsJxh9NMSKbaFgVl6kUehizFX-4S3o/edit "Fits + Starts Listener Survey")

- [Best way for artists and creators to get sustainable income and connect with fans | Patreon](https://www.patreon.com/ "Best way for artists and creators to get sustainable income and connect with fans | Patreon")

- [In Praise of Incrementalism - Freakonomics Freakonomics](http://freakonomics.com/podcast/in-praise-of-incrementalism/ "In Praise of Incrementalism - Freakonomics Freakonomics")

- [Ta-Nehisi Coates (@tanehisicoates) | Twitter](https://twitter.com/tanehisicoates?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor "Ta-Nehisi Coates (@tanehisicoates) | Twitter")

- [patrice o'chill (@patthemanager) | Twitter](https://twitter.com/patthemanager?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor "patrice o'chill (@patthemanager) | Twitter")

- [Lil Chano From 79th (@chancetherapper) | Twitter](https://twitter.com/chancetherapper?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor "Lil Chano From 79th (@chancetherapper) | Twitter")

- [Kashana (@kashanacauley) | Twitter](https://twitter.com/kashanacauley?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor "Kashana (@kashanacauley) | Twitter")

- [(((Fr.Ballecer,SJ))) (@padresj) | Twitter](https://twitter.com/padresj?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor "(((Fr.Ballecer,SJ))) (@padresj) | Twitter")

- [Sonal Chokshi (@smc90) | Twitter](https://twitter.com/smc90?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor "Sonal Chokshi (@smc90) | Twitter")

- [Krista Tippett (@kristatippett) | Twitter](https://twitter.com/kristatippett?lang=en "Krista Tippett (@kristatippett) | Twitter")

- [Stewart Butterfield (@stewart) | Twitter](https://twitter.com/stewart?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor "Stewart Butterfield (@stewart) | Twitter")

- [Justin McElroy (@JustinMcElroy) | Twitter](https://twitter.com/JustinMcElroy?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor "Justin McElroy (@JustinMcElroy) | Twitter")

- [The Travis McElroy (@travismcelroy) | Twitter](https://twitter.com/travismcelroy?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor "The Travis McElroy (@travismcelroy) | Twitter")

- [twenty griffinteen (@griffinmcelroy) | Twitter](https://twitter.com/griffinmcelroy?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor "twenty griffinteen (@griffinmcelroy) | Twitter")

- [My Brother, My Brother and Me | Maximum Fun](http://www.maximumfun.org/shows/my-brother-my-brother-and-me "My Brother, My Brother and Me | Maximum Fun")

- [The McElroy Brothers Will Be In Trolls 2](http://trolls2.libsyn.com/ "The McElroy Brothers Will Be In Trolls 2")

- [The Adventure Zone | Maximum Fun](http://www.maximumfun.org/shows/adventure-zone "The Adventure Zone | Maximum Fun")

- [CoolGames Inc - Polygon](https://www.polygon.com/coolgames-inc "CoolGames Inc - Polygon")

- [john roderick (@johnroderick) | Twitter](https://twitter.com/johnroderick?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor "john roderick (@johnroderick) | Twitter")

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