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Terminator: Dark Fate

11.11.2019 - By Chris, Sean, Jeremy | Force Fed Sci-FiPlay

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This time, we take a look at and review Terminator: Dark Fate, the latest entry into The Terminator franchise. We'll be looking at the Terminator: Dark Fate synopsis, movie cast, the somewhat controversial John Connor death, give our own movie rating, consider exactly how many intimidating women can one film have, and is this Arnold Schwarzenegger's last Terminator film? Let's dive in! (And if you haven't already, check out our reviews of the first two films in the franchise, The Terminator and Terminator 2: Judgment Day!)

**WARNING, SPOILERS AHEAD IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN TERMINATOR: DARK FATE YET**

(In addition, apologies we have been behind on releasing our podcast episodes and web posts ... as Chris would say ... we've been too busy 'adulting' ... enjoy!)

Terminator: Dark Fate - John Connor Death (Controversial?)

Quite simply, it is quite a shock. The scene shows John Connor being found by a different T-800 and being shot several times resulting in the character's death. His mother Sarah reveals instant heartache as she was helpless to save her son.

The majority of audiences probably felt that heartache too (we know we did). However, it seems some people out there aren't happy with this decision ... like, they refuse to accept it.

Dani Di Placido with Forbes says that the scene "completely disregard(s) the only sequel that fans love - Terminator 2 … he was our main connection to the original films, and his death renders both of those movies pointless" (read more of his article here).

Richard Trenholn with cnet.com writes "this prologue undermines Terminator 2 by killing a major character in such a cursory fashion it just feels silly." (read more of his article here).

We acknowledge that some people are upset because you might say "Well what the heck was the point of the first two films!?" We get it. The first two films were all about the need for John Connor to survive. However, remember that the future with Skynet was averted at the end of Terminator 2.

Okay, okay … the one small gripe we may have is the very quick and thrown-in fix of 'oh, well there was more than one terminator sent back at the same time to kill John Connor.' Let's say we buy into it though and continue.

So, with the potential Skynet timeline being averted, anything can now happen. Many praise Linda Hamilton and her character in this film (we'll get to that discussion in a bit). John had to die for her character arc to evolve into what it is in Dark Fate. In addition, a sequel that is a soft reboot needs to be unique itself. We think with Connor not being the future resistance leader makes the film pretty unique from the others, don't you?

All-in-all, take a deep breath everyone! Yes it's shocking, but let's embrace something new. Let there be new characters and let there be new stories. Alright … rant over. You may continue, haha!

(As a side note, the scene includes the recreation of John and Sarah Connor along with an undamaged T-800 as if we were watching a Terminator 2 post-credits scene in 1991 - actually looke...

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