Michelle De Mooy is the author of The AI Archipelago. She is the Principal of De Mooy Consulting. In previous roles, she served as Director of the Tech & Public Policy program at Georgetown's McCourt School of Public Policy and Director of the Privacy and Data Project at the Center for Democracy and Technology.

Michelle joined Var Shankar to discuss:

• How AI capabilities and risks emerge from networked interactions between systems
• The role of 'AI culture' - and how to measure it
• How to improve AI governance approaches that focus on individual AI systems
• Why we may have limited time to shape AI's collective behavior
• How policymakers and AI governance practitioners should respond