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Helena Souffrant, a Masters student at the Yale School of the Environment, joins the Always Be Birdin' Podcast to lend her knowledge about the world of Natural History. Join us as we pull at the roots of capital "S" science and reveal a long history of colonization and the desire to uphold made up categorization systems that are intrinsically linked to racism and capitalism. As we navigate these complex topics, we come to the reality that birding as we know it today can be described as a rebranding of the exploitative expeditions of the past. We also discuss the normalized rigidity of capital "S" science and what happens when white supremacy is the only voice in the room when it comes to understanding the world around us. And, as always, how can we as Black, Indigenous and birders of color, continue to challenge and dismantle the systems that inform how we go birding every day.