Media guru and mom Bobbie Ziemer brings unique blend of passion and pain to this episode with Cathy. Is the drug pandemic sweeping our nation simply media hype? Bobbie’s experience will open your heart to understand how families suffer. Bobbie brought together 167 moms who share their tender stories in the book, Not In Vain. Together, she and Cathy honor the memory of Bobbie's daughter, Madison, as they talk about the ways families suffer. If you are looking for comfort, here it is.