On this provocative episode of the Tara Palmeri Show, co-founder of the Lincoln Project and host of the Lincoln Project podcast Rick Wilson dismantles the myth that MAGA fades with Trump, arguing instead that it mutates into a more entrenched authoritarian force fueled by elite interests in Silicon Valley and private equity. Joined by congressional bureau chief Burgess Everett and host Tara Palmeri, the discussion unpacks Trump's wired-in chaos as a lame duck—ignoring laws, precedents, and traditions to burn down institutions while profiting personally—and explores whether he'll gamble on a third run despite legal barriers, echoing his 2020 election denial and Capitol riot incitement. The panel probes MAGA's evolution beyond Trump, from Tea Party remnants clashing with fiscal conservatives over tariff checks to a potential Marjorie Taylor Greene-led "America First" strain laced with white nationalism, Proud Boys extremism, anti-Semitism, and racism that strains the GOP's immigrant coalitions. With Trump's popularity dipping and Senate holdouts like RFK Jr.'s confirmation stalling, the conversation warns of escalating dangers on civil liberties through ICE overreach and foreign policy blunders like the Ukraine deal, questioning if the movement splinters or hardens into an executive weapon against opponents.

What new leader could possibly harness MAGA's fractured coalitions without Trump's celebrity pull?

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The End of MAGA? MTG Leaves Sinking Ship

Chapters:

00:00 Welcome to the Tara Palmeri Show

00:10 Rick Wilson: MAGA doesn’t die, it mutates

02:15 Trump as lame duck: burning it all down

04:05 Tara joins Katy Tur Reports on MSNBC

05:20 Marjorie Taylor Greene and the America First split

07:10 GOP factions clash over Trump’s next moves

08:38 Thanks for watching the Tara Palmeri Show