The Association of Certified Fraud Examiners (ACFE) is the world’s largest anti-fraud organization providing anti-fraud training and education. 

With over 30 years in the anti-fraud trenches, John Gill, President of the ACFE, talks us through his unlikely start as a legal writer to becoming a key fraud-fighting leader. His journey proves there's no single path into this field (good news for fraud career changers!).

John shares stories from his interviews with notorious fraudsters that had me taking notes on psychological red flags. We dive into why developing killer interview skills might be the most underrated weapon in your fraud-fighting arsenal.

Whether you're a seasoned CFE or considering your first steps into fraud examination, John's advice on building rapport, establishing trust, and continual learning applies. This conversation reminded me why fighting fraud matters in ways that transcend the financial impact – and why the field continues to attract passionate professionals dedicated to protecting organizations and the public.

Connect with John:

• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-gill-cfe/
• ACFE: https://www.acfe.com/