In this conversation, Ken Roden and Carl Oliveri explore the journey of self-discovery, the importance of vulnerability in leadership, and the impact of personal experiences on professional growth. Carl shares his insights on how introverts can excel in sales, the significance of helping others succeed, and the lessons learned from both personal and professional challenges. The discussion emphasizes the need for authenticity, empathy, and the courage to pursue fulfillment in one's career.

This week we are supporting the Face It Foundation, a newer organization doing peer support for men's depression recovery and breaking down the stigma around men seeking help

Takeaways

• Ken identifies as an extrovert but feels shy in big groups.
• Carl's journey in sales began with a misunderstanding of the role.
• True leadership is about listening and helping others succeed.
• Vulnerability is essential for building trust in leadership.
• Finding fulfillment in work is crucial for personal happiness.
• It's important to be honest with oneself and others.
• Success can lead to an inflated ego and personal challenges.
• Personal experiences can significantly impact professional life.
• Co-parenting can lead to better relationships post-divorce.
• Empathy in leadership can enhance team performance.

• The Journey of Self-Discovery in Leadership
• Vulnerability: The Heart of Effective Leadership

• "Don't sit in the room, don't waste your time."
• "You can build a lot of trust with people."
• "Success bred a whole lot of cockiness."