Next Level Agents: The Kevin & Fred Show - Interviews with the best and brightest minds in the real estate industry

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Next Level Agents: The Kevin & Fred Show - Interviews with the best and brightest minds in the real estate industry episodes:

04.15.2024
Always Account for Dumb Luck: The Story of Group 46:10 w/Greg Gale
As agents, building a database and adding value to our sphere has been drilled into us. We took that same mindset and strategy, and applied it to our peers and agent relationships. Just like we’re told to host events and...
04.08.2024
Morgan Housel’s Money Mindset: Live a High-End Toyota Life, Not a Entry-Level BMW One
Human beings are an aspiration and progress-based species, and money is the currency of this game. We’re always going to chase growth and success, and that comes with a lot of social debt and expectations, but if we’re not careful,...
04.01.2024
The 2mm Shifts That Will Take You From Mediocre to High Performer w/Kamille Rose Taylor
When you look at high performers, it’s hard to tell exactly what they do differently, but what’s clear is that their results aren’t the same as ours. Many people try to mimic them on the surface - eat what they...
03.25.2024
The NAR Settlement is Actually Good News For Our Industry w/Michael Valdes
The NAR buyer’s agent litigation has been a huge topic and concern for agents across the country for months. Now that the lawsuit has been settled, there’s a lot of panic, knee-jerk reactions, assumptions and worries about what it means. Are...
03.18.2024
How Pace Morby Built a $450 Million Portfolio Without Using His Own Money
In today’s market, most of us are coming up against the same problem - belligerent sellers who think their home is worth more than everyone’s saying it is. Under normal circumstances, that means no deal, but there’s strategy for these...
03.11.2024
Stop Being An Optimist: The DNA of a Dominant Agent w/Curtis Johnson
In a good market, the gap between great agents and average agents is virtually non-existent - it’s anyone’s game. When the market turns, the gap between the good and the great becomes so wide, it’s the difference between earning money...
03.04.2024
3 Simple Leadership Strategies to Grow Your Business and Real Estate Team
Adults don’t need to be instructed, they simply need to be reminded. Pain will always be the leader in the lessons of our lives. If you chase the pain, you learn the lessons quicker. Chase the pain of growth, the pain...
02.26.2024
Good Ideas Are Killing You: The One Business Behavior Robbing You of Greatness w/Keith Riddle
In our industry, owning a brokerage has always been seen as the pinnacle of success. But for many owners who love what real estate offers but not running a brokerage, it’s a necessary evil. Owning a brokerage is a doorway to...
02.19.2024
Signs of a Messed Up Mindset & How to Start Thinking Critically
Making a change, whether it’s to a belief system, a business model or brokerage is something many people won’t do, even if it would benefit them. Only people who think critically and aren’t caught up in ego are willing to...
02.12.2024
The Brutally Simple Reason Why You’re Not Profitable
Profit - it’s the whole entire point that we run businesses. For such a critical, and even fundamental topic, agents will talk about everything else but whether or not they are making a profit, and there’s a reason. Staying on top...
02.05.2024
Hiring Screw Ups That Are Definitely Tanking Your Business
In the conversation about scaling our real estate businesses, systems come up a lot, but that’s not the first and most important thing. Systems come a distant second to people, because ultimately, how can we step out of specific roles...
01.29.2024
Steal These Investing Ideas From Warren Buffett If You Want To Get Wealthy
Intro Paragraph/Email Without a doubt, Warren Buffett and Charlie Munger are 2 of the greatest investing minds of all time. Because they’ve been at it for so long, they’ve seen market highs and market lows, and built a massive holding company...
01.22.2024
People want to be shocked! Chris Igoe On the Ultimate Advantage of YouTube
Anytime an agent gets an appointment from a cold call, it’s like walking into a war zone. They don’t know you, like you or trust you, so they aren’t exactly warm and fuzzy when you go and meet them…unless they’ve...
01.15.2024
From Ideation to Implementation: The Real Estate Team Trap & Getting Clarity in Our Decision Making w/Angela Gordon & Trevor Halpern
In real estate, agents, teams and business models don’t fit in one box, but we constantly fall into the trap of doing things one specific way. People start teams because it’s the next indicated step, what everyone else is doing...
01.08.2024
Justin Nelson On Overcoming Leverage Limiting Beliefs & Exactly How to Hire VAs
We may not see it this way, but real estate isn’t as risky as we think. In fact, in many ways, we’re conditioned against taking risks, and that’s why leverage is such a hard concept for the majority of our...
01.01.2024
Ben Kinney On Mastering Boredom, Market Predictions & The 3 Things That Guarantee Success in Real Estate
“The road to success and the road to failure are almost exactly the same.” On any given day, we’re walking a tightrope between success and failure, but when we’re in a good market and a time of abundance, we don’t...
12.25.2023
Dustin Brohm’s 2024 Predictions: Market Recovery & Why NAR Has a Big Problem
2023 was rough for a lot of people. Agents and teams were selling less homes. Pending transactions hit their lowest number in 2 decades, and most pipelines were drier than ever before. On top of that, the NAR lawsuit verdicts...
12.18.2023
Todd Bookspan Is Back: Lessons From 2023, Intentions for 2024
At this time of the year, people tend to get more reflective about the last 12 months. December 31st hangs over our heads, and this imaginary finish line forces us to really think about what we’ve accomplished, and what we...
12.11.2023
Remembering Rick Geha
With most of the people I see who have over 30 years in the business, it shows on their faces. I’m excited everyday, I look forward to my day, I look forward to meeting great people in the business everyday....
12.04.2023
Challenge Your Beliefs Often: The Cheat Code For Building Anything At a High Level w/Matt Chick
Whether it’s a traditional real estate team, an investment portfolio or a fulfilling life - building anything great is a process of constantly asking ourselves big questions and challenging whatever we believe. It’s really easy to copycat our way to...
11.27.2023
$22 Million From a Facebook Group: How Laura Griffin Built a Hyper-Local Community & Lead Machine
The gift of real estate is that we can generate leads the way we want, as long as we systematize it. Not everyone in real estate wants to cold call, door knock and have a business that relies on speed-to-lead....
11.20.2023
Outwork Any Problem: Daryl Owen On Indie Brokerages, Perseverance & Not Letting Identity Block Change
To have staying power in real estate, mindset and the ability to pivot is key. We have to be willing to make big changes to our models, and have the courage to do things differently. The problem is: many business...
11.13.2023
No Days Off: Do Hard Things & Ways to Increase Your Rental Revenue
In today’s special episode of the podcast, we’re bringing you into two episodes of No Days Off, Brian Gubernick’s show. If you care about getting better, there’s no such thing as taking time off from the things that allow you...
11.06.2023
Dustin Runyon Returns: Lessons From Robert Greene and Ryan Holiday
When you look at successful and influential authors like Robert Greene and Ryan Holiday, it’s easy to think they are geniuses whose greatness comes easy to them. This gives us an excuse not to put effort into achieving what we...
10.30.2023
Shonna Ruble On The “Smack-in-the-Face” Moment That Changed Her Business & Dominating in a New State
In an industry that celebrates making rain, GCI, units and volume, it’s really easy to lose sight of why we got into real estate in the first place. Most of us got into this for our families and for freedom...
10.23.2023
Greg Whitmire on Outlasting the Real Estate Winter and Leading 2 Companies At a High Level
Real estate and mortgage are businesses where we can earn more by doubling down on the thing we know (production) or force growth through other people. Agents and LOs often choose the former, so they take steps away from buying...
10.16.2023
Syed Mohsin On Becoming Our Own Zillow and the Ultimate Defense Against Disruption
In real estate, whoever controls the leads, controls the business - they call the shots. The rise of online lead sites like Zillow Flex means another way to generate leads, but also another entity making a claim on our earnings....
10.09.2023
Dr. Benjamin Hardy On Why 10X is Easier Than 2X and How to Achieve Impossible Goals
“Our past determines our present and our future” - that’s what most of us have been taught and what we believe. What if this concept is entirely wrong? What if our future determines our present and our present determines our...
10.02.2023
What Brokers Know That Agents Don’t: Crockpot Money & The Value of Our Influence w/Chris Bowers
In real estate, there’s 2 governing philosophies. Earn more by selling more or buy back time and treat it as a business. In simpler terms - microwave money vs. crockpot money. You’re either cheating by taking more listings or seeking...
09.25.2023
Vija Williams On Solving Your Upper Limit Problem & The Power of Intense Clusters of Self-Development
Whether we know it or not - all human beings have an internal thermostat, a certain level of abundance, joy or success we’re calibrated to. If we’re not careful, that level can make us blow up our lives and self-sabotage...
09.18.2023
Michael LaFido On the Limiting Beliefs That Keep You From Luxury Listings
From an average home to an ultra-luxury mansion, there are 5 buckets of listings agents can go after. For many of us, the idea of breaking into the luxury niche is intimidating as hell. Agents will wait years to take...
09.11.2023
Kamille Rose Taylor On Feeling Worthy of Your Calling, Overcoming Performance Blocks & Harnessing the Power of Focus
We’re all equipped with natural strengths, abilities and things that come easy to us. Those things are powerful clues to our calling. Unfortunately, when we go through the journey of unearthing that calling, imposter syndrome walks right beside it. There’s...
09.04.2023
Bob Sophiea On Adaptive Persistence, Making Up Lost Ground & Why Stagnancy is Growth in this Market
In today’s episode, I’m really pumped to finally have my friend and business partner, Bob Sophiea on the show. I’m really happy to have him in the hot seat, pepper him with questions and find out how he thinks about...
08.28.2023
The Chris Bowers Hat-trick: Stacking Wins, Breaking Business Models & Why Working More is Actually Lazy
In today’s episode, Chris Bowers returns for the third time. The last time he was on the show, it was when the market was starting to look different from the highs we saw in 2020/2021. As someone who constantly challenges...
08.21.2023
Close Deals Without Robbing Your Soul: How to Build a Successful Business On Your Strengths w/Travis Crow and Veronica Morrow
In today’s episode, I’m joined by Travis Crow and Veronica Morrow, two real estate professionals who have come together to create an amazing program for lead generation and business growth. Not everyone in real estate is built for the...
08.14.2023
The Streamlined Benchmark Report
In today’s episode, our bookkeeper, and friend , David Pittiglio returns to talk about a project he has been working on with Real Trends, the Streamlined Benchmark Report. As a bookkeeping service that serves 850 clients in real estate across...
08.07.2023
Nick McLean Returns: His Creative Grand Canyon, New Venture & Take on the Market
In today’s episode, our favorite pilot turned team leader, turned real estate coach and entrepreneur, Nick McLean returns to the show for a third time. This time, he has a book and new real estate platform to share with us....
07.31.2023
REPLAY: Josh Smith On His Market Shift Survival Strategy & Why He Took 8 Months Off
In today’s episode, I’m excited to have my buddy and host of GSD Mode, Josh Smith back on the podcast to talk about what he’s been up to, and how he’s preparing for what’s coming in the real estate market....
07.24.2023
REPLAY: Why We Joined Place: An Unmatchable Value Proposition & Why More Teams Need to Pay Attention to This Company
In today’s episode, we’re talking about our decision to join Place, the thought process behind this move, and the value proposition Place delivers to real estate teams. When you hear about Place and many top real estate teams joining it,...
07.17.2023
What It Takes to Be Massively Successful in Business Part 4
In today’s episode, we’re wrapping up our series of bite-sized episodes on one topic: what does it take to be massively successful in real estate (or any business, really)? I’ll be going over the final 2 things successful business owners...
07.10.2023
What It Takes to Be Massively Successful in Business Part 3
In today’s episode, we’re continuing our series of bite-sized episodes on one topic: what does it take to be massively successful in real estate (or any business, really)? I’ll be going over two more things successful business owners do, and...
07.03.2023
What It Takes to Be Massively Successful in Business Part 2
In today’s episode, we’re continuing our series of bite-sized episodes on one topic: what does it take to be massively successful in real estate (or any business, really)? I’ll be going over two more things successful business owners do, and...
06.26.2023
What It Takes to Be Massively Successful in Business Part 1
In today’s episode, we’re kicking off a series of bite-sized episodes on one topic: what does it take to be massively successful in real estate (or any business, really)? I’ll be going over the first 2 things successful business owners...
06.19.2023
The Most Important Lessons From My Biggest Losses, Mistakes & Worst Decisions
In today’s episode, I share some of my most important lessons. This was brought on by a question I was asked at a mastermind, “when you look back at your most significant losses, stupid decisions and biggest mistakes, what are...
06.12.2023
Holistically Consultative: Why This Market Demands Creativity & Unconventional Solutions w/Derek Jarr
In today’s episode, I’m joined by entrepreneur and real estate expert, Derek Jarr. As someone who has been around real estate for years, Derek is always out in front of trends in our industry and ways to continue providing solutions...
06.05.2023
The Hidden Equation For Becoming a Super Business Leader w/Debbie De Grote
In today’s episode, I’m joined by Debbie De Grote. An accomplished real estate business owner and coach, Debbie has seen market cycles come and go, and learned what it takes to succeed in different conditions. With her partnership with Ben...
05.29.2023
Andrew Anderson On The Strength of An Oak & The #1 Reason People Need a Coach
In today’s episode, I’m joined by breakthrough coach, Andrew Anderson. Andrew has been in the coaching game for a while, and he accomplished what very few managed to achieve as a KW productivity coach. Always placed in a position to...
05.22.2023
Unlocking the Secrets of Database Turnover: Expert Insights from Bob Stewart on Why It Matters and Proven Solutions
In today’s episode, I’m joined by Bob Stewart of community evangelist at Place Inc, and Active Rain before that. Bob’s got a cool story - he’s been in and around real estate for many years. He was a pioneer in...
05.15.2023
From Rap to Real Estate: Knolly Williams on Building a Successful Business Working 3 Hours a Day
In today’s episode, I’m so excited to finally have our good friend and brother, Knolly Williams on the show. Knolly and us go way back to our early days in real estate, and today we still work together and commit...
05.08.2023
Gold to Sold: Chad Hedrick On the Journey From Olympic Athlete to Successful Business Owner
In today’s episode, I’m excited to be joined by Olympian medalist and former inline and ice speed skater, Chad Hedrick. Chad’s got a cool story - going from the heights of sports performance to success in real estate. With 5...

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Next Level Agents: The Kevin & Fred Show - Interviews with the best and brightest minds in the real estate industry episodes:

Always Account for Dumb Luck: The Story of Group 46:10 w/Greg Gale

Morgan Housel’s Money Mindset: Live a High-End Toyota Life, Not a Entry-Level BMW One

The 2mm Shifts That Will Take You From Mediocre to High Performer w/Kamille Rose Taylor

The NAR Settlement is Actually Good News For Our Industry w/Michael Valdes

How Pace Morby Built a $450 Million Portfolio Without Using His Own Money

Stop Being An Optimist: The DNA of a Dominant Agent w/Curtis Johnson

3 Simple Leadership Strategies to Grow Your Business and Real Estate Team

Good Ideas Are Killing You: The One Business Behavior Robbing You of Greatness w/Keith Riddle

Signs of a Messed Up Mindset & How to Start Thinking Critically

The Brutally Simple Reason Why You’re Not Profitable

Hiring Screw Ups That Are Definitely Tanking Your Business

Steal These Investing Ideas From Warren Buffett If You Want To Get Wealthy

People want to be shocked! Chris Igoe On the Ultimate Advantage of YouTube

From Ideation to Implementation: The Real Estate Team Trap & Getting Clarity in Our Decision Making w/Angela Gordon & Trevor Halpern

Justin Nelson On Overcoming Leverage Limiting Beliefs & Exactly How to Hire VAs

Ben Kinney On Mastering Boredom, Market Predictions & The 3 Things That Guarantee Success in Real Estate

Dustin Brohm’s 2024 Predictions: Market Recovery & Why NAR Has a Big Problem

Todd Bookspan Is Back: Lessons From 2023, Intentions for 2024

Remembering Rick Geha

Challenge Your Beliefs Often: The Cheat Code For Building Anything At a High Level w/Matt Chick

$22 Million From a Facebook Group: How Laura Griffin Built a Hyper-Local Community & Lead Machine

Outwork Any Problem: Daryl Owen On Indie Brokerages, Perseverance & Not Letting Identity Block Change

No Days Off: Do Hard Things & Ways to Increase Your Rental Revenue

Dustin Runyon Returns: Lessons From Robert Greene and Ryan Holiday

Shonna Ruble On The “Smack-in-the-Face” Moment That Changed Her Business & Dominating in a New State

Greg Whitmire on Outlasting the Real Estate Winter and Leading 2 Companies At a High Level

Syed Mohsin On Becoming Our Own Zillow and the Ultimate Defense Against Disruption

Dr. Benjamin Hardy On Why 10X is Easier Than 2X and How to Achieve Impossible Goals

What Brokers Know That Agents Don’t: Crockpot Money & The Value of Our Influence w/Chris Bowers

Vija Williams On Solving Your Upper Limit Problem & The Power of Intense Clusters of Self-Development

Michael LaFido On the Limiting Beliefs That Keep You From Luxury Listings

Kamille Rose Taylor On Feeling Worthy of Your Calling, Overcoming Performance Blocks & Harnessing the Power of Focus

Bob Sophiea On Adaptive Persistence, Making Up Lost Ground & Why Stagnancy is Growth in this Market

The Chris Bowers Hat-trick: Stacking Wins, Breaking Business Models & Why Working More is Actually Lazy

Close Deals Without Robbing Your Soul: How to Build a Successful Business On Your Strengths w/Travis Crow and Veronica Morrow

The Streamlined Benchmark Report

Nick McLean Returns: His Creative Grand Canyon, New Venture & Take on the Market

REPLAY: Josh Smith On His Market Shift Survival Strategy & Why He Took 8 Months Off

REPLAY: Why We Joined Place: An Unmatchable Value Proposition & Why More Teams Need to Pay Attention to This Company

What It Takes to Be Massively Successful in Business Part 4

What It Takes to Be Massively Successful in Business Part 3

What It Takes to Be Massively Successful in Business Part 2

What It Takes to Be Massively Successful in Business Part 1

The Most Important Lessons From My Biggest Losses, Mistakes & Worst Decisions

Holistically Consultative: Why This Market Demands Creativity & Unconventional Solutions w/Derek Jarr

The Hidden Equation For Becoming a Super Business Leader w/Debbie De Grote

Andrew Anderson On The Strength of An Oak & The #1 Reason People Need a Coach

Unlocking the Secrets of Database Turnover: Expert Insights from Bob Stewart on Why It Matters and Proven Solutions

From Rap to Real Estate: Knolly Williams on Building a Successful Business Working 3 Hours a Day

Gold to Sold: Chad Hedrick On the Journey From Olympic Athlete to Successful Business Owner