The Labor Movement after the Virus: Harold Meyerson; plus Greil Marcus on The Great Gatsby

High unemployment usually hurts working class organizing--"except when it doesn't," Harold Meyerson says. He looks a the possible futures for the labor movement when the virus is finished. Harold is executive editor of The American Prospect.

Also: Greil Marcus has a new book out--it’s about The Great Gatsby and its place in American culture and American life--including on Saturday Night Live with Andy Kaufman. Greil of course has written many books, Starting with the classic “Mystery Train” and including “Lipstick Traces.” His new book is titled “Under the Red White and Blue: Patriotism, Disenchantment and the Stubborn Myth of The Great Gatsby.”