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The Permission Layer for AI Music: Consent, Attribution, and Getting Artists Paid
AI Music Rights & Licensing: Building the Permission Layer (with Grimes, Apple & Blockchain in the Mix)
What happens when AI can create infinite music but artists can't track infinite uses?
In this panel, Abbi Press, Global Lead of Business Affairs at Uber and lifelong musician, hosts a deep dive into AI in the music industry, from copyright and consent to metadata and money. She’s joined by Daouda Leonard (CreateSafe) who pioneered Grimes' voice-cloning experiment, Dae Bogan (The MLC) envisioning "infinite licensing," Marc Rucker (SoundExchange) defending artist autonomy, and Tushar Apte (Warner Chappell) navigating AI's creative reality, four experts building the systems behind AI music rights management.
Together they unpack the idea of a “permission layer” for AI music: how consent, attribution, and payments can be enforced at scale, and where blockchain and automated licensing fit in. They unpack the $75K studio dilemma dividing creators, why opt-out frameworks fail artists, how Apple secretly solved infinite licensing, and whether blockchain can bridge the gap. From Grimes learning she hates her AI offspring to AI hitting Billboard's charts—this is the conversation shaping who gets paid when machines make music.
Resources at thedoublehelix.substack.com
Chapters:
[00:00:00] Opening: Setting the Permission Layer My piano origin story and why this matters now
[00:07:04] The Grimes Experiment Daouda on open-sourcing fame and digital freedom
[00:12:55] Lyricists vs. Singers: The New Divide The $75K studio problem splitting music's creative class
[00:27:30] Weekend Warriors vs. Professionals Two music industries that barely intersect
[00:34:46] Infinite Licensing: Blockchain Meets AI Automated rights management without human negotiation
[00:41:32] Apple's DJ Mixes: The Hidden Blueprint How infinite licensing already exists
[00:48:38] The Authenticity Timeline From electric guitars to AI Billboard charts
[00:54:10] Concluding Thoughts on Music and Technology
Perfect for artists, producers, rights holders, and anyone trying to make sense of how AI will reshape the music business.
The Double Helix: Making compliance your creative advantageGet full access to The Double Helix at thedoublehelix.substack.com/subscribe
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By By Abbi Press — Business Affairs lead, artist, and creator of The Double Helix.AI Music Rights & Licensing: Building the Permission Layer (with Grimes, Apple & Blockchain in the Mix)
What happens when AI can create infinite music but artists can't track infinite uses?
In this panel, Abbi Press, Global Lead of Business Affairs at Uber and lifelong musician, hosts a deep dive into AI in the music industry, from copyright and consent to metadata and money. She’s joined by Daouda Leonard (CreateSafe) who pioneered Grimes' voice-cloning experiment, Dae Bogan (The MLC) envisioning "infinite licensing," Marc Rucker (SoundExchange) defending artist autonomy, and Tushar Apte (Warner Chappell) navigating AI's creative reality, four experts building the systems behind AI music rights management.
Together they unpack the idea of a “permission layer” for AI music: how consent, attribution, and payments can be enforced at scale, and where blockchain and automated licensing fit in. They unpack the $75K studio dilemma dividing creators, why opt-out frameworks fail artists, how Apple secretly solved infinite licensing, and whether blockchain can bridge the gap. From Grimes learning she hates her AI offspring to AI hitting Billboard's charts—this is the conversation shaping who gets paid when machines make music.
Resources at thedoublehelix.substack.com
Chapters:
[00:00:00] Opening: Setting the Permission Layer My piano origin story and why this matters now
[00:07:04] The Grimes Experiment Daouda on open-sourcing fame and digital freedom
[00:12:55] Lyricists vs. Singers: The New Divide The $75K studio problem splitting music's creative class
[00:27:30] Weekend Warriors vs. Professionals Two music industries that barely intersect
[00:34:46] Infinite Licensing: Blockchain Meets AI Automated rights management without human negotiation
[00:41:32] Apple's DJ Mixes: The Hidden Blueprint How infinite licensing already exists
[00:48:38] The Authenticity Timeline From electric guitars to AI Billboard charts
[00:54:10] Concluding Thoughts on Music and Technology
Perfect for artists, producers, rights holders, and anyone trying to make sense of how AI will reshape the music business.
The Double Helix: Making compliance your creative advantageGet full access to The Double Helix at thedoublehelix.substack.com/subscribe
Get full access to The Double Helix at thedoublehelix.substack.com/subscribe