After revealing some details of their personal lives, Carl and Todd get down to business. Seems a disturbing phenomenon is plaguing churches all over the country. Since the lockdown, many Christians have become too comfortable with worshipping from home over a screen…dressed in their jammies, eating donuts, and—quite possibly—not really worshipping at all. 
Does it really matter? What are people missing by not going back to church as restrictions are slowly being lifted? Our favorite duo discuss the meaning and importance of “being bodily present” for the different traditions like the Roman Catholic, Eastern Orthodox, and the Protestant. Is there any place for live streaming, and any reason not to physically gather for worship? It’s time to weigh in. Oh, and notice who’s playing the optimist this time!

Today's program originally aired 9/30/20.

The Power of Being There

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Back in 2013, Carl and Todd launched Mortification of Spin with their first episode, "Rock Star Pastors in Las Vegas," sharing a microphone in a small underground bunker. All these years later, they no longer share a mic, but they're still going strong, celebrating their 500th first-run episode. Joining them for this momentous occasion are their good friends, Kevin DeYoung and Matt Eusey. After reminiscing about the early days, the conversation turns toward the importance of meaningful friendships. The guys consider the benefits of friendship and the current challenges we face as these most vital relationships have undergone a dramatic transformation. 
It really is important to have friends. It's not a sufficient condition for being faithful in ministry, but I do think it is a necessary condition, and it's really important to have people to know who you really are and [to] joke with, but also be challenged by, and know that they are looking over your shoulder in a good way. – Kevin DeYoung
For best results, enjoy this special episode as a video podcast on YouTube.
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Show Notes:
Listen to "Rock Star Pastors in Las Vegas” :https://mortificationofspin.podbean.com/e/rock-star-pastors-in-las-vegas/
Mortification of Spin on YouTube:https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLq5LVxh1Goi5_ZbzUqOaDNjSw1hicGfMF
Mortification of Spin swag:https://reformedresources.org/mortification-of-spin/

Celebrating 500 Episodes!

Mark Jones is back on the podcast today, chatting with Carl and Todd about his latest book, The Pilgrim's Regress: Guarding against Backsliding and Apostasy in the Christian Life. Vowing not to write another book for a long time because of the toll it takes on his life expectancy, Mark explains why he chose to address the uncomfortable topic of backsliding believers—and, to a lesser extent, apostasy—in his latest work. 
After Covid and all that it did to the church, there's a very serious need to confront what is an obvious pastoral issue for many pastors, and that is a lot of people have fallen away or become extremely lazy in their Christian living. - Mark Jones
An important topic infrequently discussed in many Reformed churches, Mark addresses backsliding in this serious, hopeful, and pastoral work informed by wise theologians of the past and present. 
P&R Publishing has provided a few giveaway copies of The Pilgrim's Regress: Guarding against Backsliding and Apostasy in the Christian Life for our listeners. Register here for the opportunity to win.
Show Notes:
For a copy of The Pilgrim’s Regress: https://reformedresources.org/the-pilgrims-regress-guarding-against-backsliding-and-apostasy-in-the-christian-life-paperback/
Antinomianism and other books by Mark Jones:
https://reformedresources.org/books/authors/mark-jones/
Mark recommends the following titles:
Personal Declension and Revival of the Soul by Octavius Winslow:
https://reformedresources.org/personal-declension-and-revival-of-religion-in-the-soul-paperback/
Holiness by JC Ryle:  https://reformedresources.org/holiness-its-nature-hindrances-difficulties-and-roots-hardcover/

Pilgrim's Regress

The Deconstruction of Christianity
What exactly is deconstruction? The movement has been defined in many different ways. Today’s guests co-authored a book to clear up the confusion. Alisa Childers, author of Another Gospel?, and Tim Barnett, creator of Red Pen Logic, sit down with Todd and Carl to discuss the true nature of faith deconstruction, which is sweeping through our churches and is disrupting, dismantling, and destroying the faith of so many.
“Sadly, because of the Biblical illiteracy in our culture, because we live in a mic-drop world where someone just makes a claim and then they drop the mic and walk away as if they won an argument…that’s why these things are so persuasive, and they get so many likes and so many shares and such a following.” – Tim Barnett
Alisa and Tim will help you understand what deconstruction is, where it comes from, why it is compelling to some, and how it disorients the lives of so many, as well as how to think through the main issues and explore wise and loving ways to respond from a biblical worldview. Don’t miss this important conversation. 
Tyndale Press has provided a few giveaway copies of The Deconstruction of Christianity: What It Is, Why It’s Destructive, and How to Respond for our listeners. Register here for the opportunity to win.
 
Show Notes:
To purchase a copy of Alisa and Tim’s book: https://reformedresources.org/the-deconstruction-of-christianity-what-it-is-why-its-destructive-and-how-to-respond-softcover/
Red Pen Logic: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCmIwZDSKSeNboqWKtgX7UrA
Tim’s website:  https://www.str.org/tim-barnett
Alisa’s Website: https://alisachilders.com/

The Deconstruction of Christianity

Originating as lectures delivered at the University of Durham over 80 years ago, The Abolition of Man by C.S. Lewis is a classic and one of the most debated of his extraordinary works. Lewis sets out to persuade his audience of the importance and relevance of universal values such as courage and honor in contemporary society. 
Listen in as Carl and Todd discuss why Christians today have much to learn from reading Lewis’ astonishingly prophetic and insightful lectures.
“I think what Lewis was doing, and probably was not fully aware he was doing, was putting his finger on what would manifest itself as the underlying problem of the modern world, which is the complete collapse of the notion of human nature: what it means to be a man, what it means to be human.”  – Carl Trueman
Intervarsity Press provided a few giveaway copies of The Medieval Mind of C.S. Lewis by Jason Baxter for our listeners. Congratulations to our winners: Robin F. from Trumann, AK, Andrew M. from Savage, MN, and Ben G. from Livonia, MI.
Intervarsity has also provided a discount code for our listeners. Enter IVPPOD20 at check-out to get 20% off Jason’s book and all other titles at ivpress.com, plus free shipping!
 
Show Notes:
The Abolition of Man by C.S. Lewis: https://a.co/d/6SnPqL2
After Virtue: A Study in Moral Theory by Alasdair MacIntyre: https://a.co/d/2UDT4Wf
After Humanity: A Guide to C.S. Lewis’ The Abolition of Man by Michael Ward: https://a.co/d/4ZSIAgF
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The Abolition of Man

Tom Rudelius had science and an Ivy League pedigree—why did he need God? Immersed in his physics studies at Cornell, he never thought much about God until his brother, a new convert to Christianity, challenged him to explore faith. Tom joins Carl and Todd to discuss his new book, Chasing Proof, Finding Faith, where he traces his journey to unexpected faith, through subsequent doubt and anxiety.
“I think that what God really wants from us is that we would give him our allegiance, even in the midst of our doubts. And I think that’s the sort of faith that God really calls us to – the sort of faith that says, ‘God, I will take your side, even amidst the doubts. I will choose to give you my life and to follow you, even if I’m questioning.’” 
Though he never found absolute proof of God or Christianity, he ultimately concluded that the existing evidence for both is compelling and compatible with science. Tune in to this fascinating conversation, and find out why Carl compared him to Martin Luther!
Thank you to Tyndale Press for providing a few giveaway copies of Chasing Proof, Finding Faith for our listeners. Congratulations to our winners: Joseph S. from West Chester, PA, Barbara S. from Lancaster, PA, and Michael C. from Evansville, IN!
 
Show Notes:
Tom recommends this book for those who are interested in investigating Christianity:
Letters from a Skeptic: A Son Wrestles with His Father's Questions about Christianity

The Power of Being There

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