It’s been a bruising few weeks for everyone connected to the All Blacks, and today on DSPN, we’re not sugar-coating it.

Martin opens with a sermon from the mountaintop, laying out a simple but serious wishlist for what comes next in New Zealand rugby. No corporate buzzwords, no fluffy slogans. Just three survival words that matter right now: experience, unity, and stability.

We dig into why international rugby eats “vibes” for breakfast, why learning on the job doesn’t cut it at this level, and why New Zealand Rugby needs to lean on the people who’ve actually been there, won it, and felt the full weight of World Cup pressure. There’s also a clear message about egos, alignment, and the reality that everything from here to the next World Cup will be under a microscope.

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