WCHL Commish Chris Perry talks with Utah GM AJ Boldan about the Utah hockey program, challenges of jumping from ACHA M2 to the big division of M1, playing as an independent in the West, and joining the WCHL this season. They also talk about how Utah Hockey is preparing for the season in the midst of the pandemic, Olympic rinks, starting a women's program at Utah, playing in Tahoe, broadcasting Nationals, and finishes with some high praise for a misunderstood Salt Lake City. Have a listen and enjoy, won't you?