What does leadership look like in practice? This episode brings together the 2025 Tällberg-SNF-Eliasson Global Leadership Prize laureates for a wide-ranging conversation moderated by Helena Nilsson.

The laureates represent three distinct yet interconnected paths to impact:

Rhett Ayers Butler, founder and CEO of Mongabay, redefining environmental journalism through a global network of independent reporting.

Bryan Doerries, artistic director of Theater of War Productions, using ancient texts to create brave spaces for dialogue and healing.

David Gruber, founder and president of Project CETI, pioneering efforts to decode whale communication and reimagine humanity's relationship with non-human life.

Guided by Helena Nilsson's thoughtful moderation, the discussion explores leadership beyond politics---leadership rooted in innovation, empathy, accountability, and universal values. Audience questions deepen the exchange, revealing both the distinctiveness of each laureate's work and the shared principles that unite them.

You can watch the full conversation on YouTube: https://youtu.be/hInSO2ZCC-4