In this episode of 13 Minutes (The Podcast) with B, he sits down with TJ Westphal, co-founder of The Slog Co., for an in-depth discussion on navigating adversity—what he defines as 'the slog.' Moving beyond the common narrative of simply enduring the grind, TJ presents a powerful framework for slowing down, engaging in radical honesty, and moving through challenges with intention, purpose, and courage. This conversation is a guide for anyone tired of maintaining a facade of being 'fine' and ready to move from stagnation to deliberate action. We explore how to reframe struggle into a catalyst for transformation, confront the resistance that hinders growth, and understand the high cost of suppressing vulnerability in our performance-driven world. From distinguishing a true calling from a destructive distraction to building a community rooted in accountability, this episode is a reminder that while the only way out is through, you don't have to do the work alone.

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