Kerry Lutz and Sally C. Pipes discussed the significant waste in government healthcare programs, particularly Medicare and Medicaid, which cost over a trillion dollars annually, highlighting issues such as fraud where deceased individuals continue to receive benefits. Sally expressed optimism about potential reforms under Elon Musk's leadership at Doge, which could streamline healthcare administration, and they examined the implications of recent executive orders restricting benefits for illegal immigrants, suggesting these could reduce government size and lower taxes, thereby addressing inflation. The conversation also touched on the impact of tariffs preceding tax cuts and the role of AI in healthcare, with Sally noting its potential to reduce administrative staff needs and assist in diagnoses, while emphasizing the necessity of human verification. They raised concerns about government efficiency, citing that only 6% of federal employees returned to work post-COVID, and discussed the challenges of reshoring manufacturing due to regulatory hurdles and workforce education. Both expressed hope for reforms under Trump's leadership to promote a smaller government that could enhance entrepreneurship and productivity, with Sally referencing her book, "The World's Medicine Chest," for further insights. Find Sally here: https://www.pacificresearch.org  Find Kerry here: http://financialsurvivalnetwork.com/ and here: https://inflation.cafe