The payments game has changed, and winging it is no longer an option. James Huber and Jeremy Stock sit down with Maurice Griefer of MyCPO (https://www.getmycpo.com/) to unpack what it takes to scale a high-risk ecommerce brand without getting crushed by chargebacks, caps, and the new Visa VAMP rules. From the wild energy of early ISO call centers to today’s distributed agent networks, the throughline is clear: honest setup, realistic limits, and proactive dispute prevention beat short-term hacks every time.

We trace the journey from old-school ISO bullpens to today’s agent-driven portfolios, then dig into VAMP, chargebacks, MATCH, and how merchants can scale without getting shut down. Maurice shares why he launched My CPO, the realities of going solo, and how to build a resilient payment stack without losing your shirt.

• evolution of the ISO model and sales ethics
• common setup mistakes that trigger MATCH
• planning limits, caps, and multiple MIDs
• VAMP thresholds, portfolio risk, and fees
• alerts, RDR, and dispute prevention tools
• building SOPs, hiring, and merchant support
• long-term trust versus short-term tactics
• hope is not a payments strategy

Maurice shares what he learned growing up around merchant services and later helping build Maverick, then explains why he launched My CPO to stay close to merchants on the front lines. We break down the mistakes that get good businesses on MATCH—like pushing a second website through an existing MID or accepting bad MCC advice—and show how early discovery, accurate underwriting, and multiple MIDs create resilience when Q4 spikes hit. If you’ve ever had a processor freeze funds after a viral campaign, this conversation gives you the playbook to avoid it.

We also dive into the VAMP era: tighter thresholds, pass-through fees, and hard choices for acquirers balancing revenue against portfolio risk. The solution isn’t magic—use alerts and RDR, improve customer service, fix product pages and disclosures, and plan realistic caps that won’t trip alarms. You will pay either way: in tools and process now, or in penalties and lost processing later. Ethics and transparency still compound: the companies that do it right keep the same team at the booth year after year because trust scales better than churn.

If you’re building in high-risk ecommerce or advising merchants who are, this is your roadmap for sustainable growth. Subscribe, share with a teammate, and leave a review telling us the one change you’ll make to your payment stack this week.

**Matters discussed are all opinions and do not constitute legal advice.  All events or likeness to real people and events is a coincidence.**

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