Ways to Change the World with Krishnan Guru-Murthy

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How can you change the world? Join Krishnan Guru-Murthy and his guest of the week as they explore the big ideas influencing how we think, act and live.

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Ways to Change the World with Krishnan Guru-Murthy episodes:

04.11.2024
Comedian Bassem Youssef on the Israel-Gaza war, the Arab Spring, and why we can’t change the world
Bassem Youssef thinks that he’s come on the wrong podcast. “People in power don't really care about any of our suggestions to change the world”, he tells Krishnan Guru-Murthy, “because if our ways to change the world affect their interests,...
04.04.2024
Playwright of Jodie Comer's Broadway hit, Suzie Miller, on sexual assault and getting justice
When lawyer turned playwright Suzie Miller created a one-woman show starring Jodie Comer for the West End and Broadway called ‘Prima Facie’, she wouldn’t have dreamt that her play would fuel real change in the legal system’s approach to sexual...
03.28.2024
Poet Nikki Giovanni on white supremacy, the Capitol attack, and teaching the Virginia Tech shooter
Nikki Giovanni has spent more than five decades in the public eye, as an activist, poet and innovator. Born on the "wrong side of the tracks" in Knoxville, Tennessee, during the era of segregation, Giovanni came of age during the...
03.14.2024
Armistead Maupin on trans rights and growing up gay in a homophobic household
Author Armistead Maupin is a pioneer - writing about AIDS and HIV for a mass audience and daring to include gay, lesbian, trans and queer lives when few others were. His ‘Tales of the City’ series, which started as...
03.07.2024
Author Kiley Reid on Black artists, handling criticism and social media
“I don’t write fiction to preach my politics,” says Kiley Reid - an American author whose debut novel “Such a Fun Age” was longlisted for the 2020 Booker prize. The book gained recognition for its themes on race, privilege, and...
02.29.2024
Timpson’s boss on upside-down management and business secrets
How do you measure a business’s success? For James Timpson, CEO of the Timpson’s Group, it comes down to two things: the satisfaction of its staff, and what it gives back to society. His employees only have to “put money...
02.23.2024
Bernie Sanders on Gaza, genocide and Trump
Bernie Sanders is the longest-serving independent senator in US congressional history and has brought income inequality, poverty and the “uber-capitalist” status quo into focus throughout his decades-long career. He nearly became the Democrats’ candidate for president, twice, and has recently...
02.15.2024
Crystal Hefner on her marriage to Hugh and being ‘trapped’ in the Playboy Mansion
Crystal Hefner was 21 when she first entered the infamous Playboy Mansion in October 2008. Within months, she ascended its hierarchy to become the top girlfriend of Hugh Hefner, who was 60 years her senior, and went on to marry...
02.01.2024
Hannah Ritchie on replacing eco-anxiety with 'cautious optimism' and how to build a more sustainable world
The past year has been a time of climate firsts, mainly for the wrong reasons. 2023 was the hottest year on record - with devastating wildfires, catastrophic flooding, ongoing loss of biodiversity and carbon emissions continuing to rise. But is...
01.11.2024
‘Deliciously’ Ella Mills on healthy eating and society's toxic relationship with ultra-processed foods
Ella Mills is the best-selling food writer and founder of Deliciously Ella, the food blog-turned-brand which she created in 2012 after a sudden debilitating illness led her to overhaul her diet and turn to plant-based foods as a way to...
12.21.2023
Arnold Schwarzenegger on self-help, the Israel-Gaza war and why he'd be a good US president
Despite being 76 years old, Arnold Schwarzenegger shows no signs of stopping. The bodybuilding champion turned Hollywood star turned US politician, now in the ‘fourth act’ of his life, has reinvented himself into a motivator, and written a book,...
12.15.2023
Samuel Kasumu, Former Special Advisor to Boris Johnson, on culture wars in government and being a Tory
From 2019 to 2021, Samuel Kasumu was the most senior Black advisor in Downing Street, and was widely referred to as Boris Johnson’s racism advisor, working alongside the former Prime Minister during the first half of the Covid pandemic. Kasumu...
12.08.2023
Keith Allen on becoming an actor and why he would legalise drugs
Keith Allen has been many things. The father of popstar Lily and Game of Thrones actor Alfie Allen, he was also a TV presenter, theatre actor, the man behind two hit football anthems (the Fat Les ditty “Vindaloo” and New...
12.01.2023
Billy Porter on being a queer Black man in the music industry, the actors' strike and Trump's America
Billy Porter started singing in church when he was about five years old, and growing up saw performance as a lifeline out of the trauma and rejection he experienced as a Black gay man. The multi-hyphenate star won a Grammy...
11.23.2023
Astronaut Tim Peake on Elon Musk's SpaceX and the future of space exploration
Being an astronaut is a job like no other. Of the estimated 100 billion people who have ever lived, only 628 people in human history have left Earth. Tim Peake is one of them. A former test pilot who served...
11.17.2023
Caster Semenya on gender fairness in athletics and what being a woman means to her
Caster Semenya has never doubted that she was a woman. It wasn’t until her athletics career started to take off that the now two-time Olympic Games gold medallist and a three-time World Athletics Championships gold medallist faced any questions over...
11.10.2023
ActionAid CEO Halima Begum on siding with humanity in Israel-Gaza war and the West’s ‘moral responsibility’ to humanitarian aid
It is nearly two weeks since Israel launched its ground offensive into Gaza and more than a month since it began intensive air strikes against Hamas, following the brutal attacks in Israel in which more than 1,400 people were killed....
11.03.2023
Carlo Rovelli on white holes, challenging different narratives and the need for a ‘reasonable compromise’ in the Israel-Palestine war
Carlo Rovelli has devoted large parts of his life to explaining to the general public what appears on the surface to be the unexplainable - and his bestselling science books saw him dubbed 'the poet of modern physics’. But the...
10.20.2023
Mikaela Loach on fighting the climate crisis through social justice, the problem with net zero, and being a 'soft Black girl'
The climate crisis is the biggest single issue affecting us all - but for some, the impact will be, and already is, far greater than for others. This is the principle of climate justice, that sees the causes and consequences...
09.29.2023
Yanis Varoufakis on the death of capitalism, Starmer and the tyranny of big tech
The world is witnessing an epochal shift, according to Greek economist Yanis Varoufakis: from the now-dead capitalism, to “technofeudalism”. In his latest book, the former Greek politician - who in 2015, at the height of the Greek debt crisis, was...
09.22.2023
Cambridge’s youngest Black professor Jason Arday on Autism, racism, and learning to read at 18
"You're categorised as not being particularly intelligent or able," says Jason Arday, an autistic Sociologist who became Cambridge University's youngest black professor. Jason Arday was unable to speak until he was 11 and could not read or write until he...
09.15.2023
Poet Lemn Sissay on growing up in the care system, racism and finding his Ethiopian family
At 14, Lemn Sissay inked his initials into his hand with a homemade tattoo. He didn’t write LS, but NG, for Norman Greenwood, which he thought was his name. Except that it wasn’t. His real identity had been withheld from...
09.08.2023
Dawn Butler MP on white feminism, Sadiq Khan, and racism in Parliament
As the third Black woman ever to be elected as an MP, and then instated as a government Minister, Dawn Butler has been vocal on the disrespect that Black women face in politics. As an outspoken campaigner herself, Butler was...
09.01.2023
Ice Cube on the police, AI and Black business
“The police haven’t changed,” says American rapper Ice Cube, marking 35 years since the release of the track “F*** Tha Police” that cemented his status in musical history alongside the hip hop group N.W. A. Ice Cube is regarded by...
08.25.2023
Activist Gina Martin on changing the law on upskirting, ‘boys will be boys’, and the impact of online abuse
Gina Martin is best known as the driving force behind the Voyeurism Act, which made upskirting, or the taking of pictures under a person’s clothing without permission, a criminal offence in England and Wales, after she was assaulted at a...
07.21.2023
Poet Ben Okri on disruptive climate protests and dreaming of Nigeria
‘This earth that we love is in grave danger because of us,’ reads the first line of Sir Ben Okri’s poem, ‘The Broken’. The poet and Booker-prize winner, who has long been a vocal environmental activist, has seen the...
07.14.2023
Syrian chef and refugee Imad Al Arnab on his journey from war-torn Syria to opening his dream restaurant in Soho
When he fled his war-torn hometown of Damascus, Imad Al Arnab spent three dangerous months smuggled in lorries trying to reach Europe. He arrived in the UK in the autumn of 2015 with a fake passport and just £12 in...
07.07.2023
Wes Streeting on child poverty, coming out, and how he would run the NHS
Brought up on a council estate in the East End of London, the son of a single mother whose own father was a bank robber and whose mother once shared a prison cell with Christine Keeler, Wes Streeting MP owes...
06.30.2023
Evgenia Kara-Murza on the fight to free Russia’s political prisoners and the dream of a democratic Russia
When Evgenia Kara-Murza and her husband Vladimir parted ways in April 2022, she had no idea that would be the last time they’d see each other. Vladimir, a long-time Russian opposition activist, was arrested in Moscow later that month...
06.23.2023
Barbara Kingsolver on America’s opioid crisis and classist attitudes to rural communities
For a generation growing up in the rural US state of Virginia, opioid addiction isn't an abstraction - it's neighbours, parents, and friends. Writer Barbara Kingsolver wanted to give these ‘lost boys’ of Appalachia a voice; to tell the...
06.16.2023
Kamila Shamsie on "Googling while Muslim", Shamima Begum and the UK’s ‘racist’ immigration policy
In 1988, a 15-year-old Kamila Shamsie stayed up all night to watch Pakistan elect its first woman prime minister. Years later, and politics is still very much at the centre of the writer’s life – on and off the page....
06.09.2023
Chris van Tulleken on how our ultra-processed diet is killing us
What is ultra-processed food? And do we really know what it’s doing to our bodies, our health, and the planet? Chris van Tulleken is a doctor and TV presenter who says most of the food that we eat isn’t really...
06.02.2023
Sadiq Khan on climate change, immigration and London’s policing crisis
Sadiq Khan has been the mayor of London since 2016, and he’s seeking a third term next year. In today’s episode of Ways to Change the World, Sadiq talks to Krishnan about his new book, ‘Breathe’, in which explores why...
05.26.2023
Nick Cave on free speech, his religion, and finding - and defining - happiness
Nick Cave hates giving interviews. It’s the first thing he mentions in his new book, “Faith, Hope & Carnage”, which comprises a series of conversations between Cave and the writer Seán O’Hagan. So it’s with some trepidation that Krishnan Guru-Murthy...
05.19.2023
Suzanne Simmard on fungal networks, ‘Mother’ trees, and restoring our forests
When Suzanne Simard discovered that trees could communicate through underground networks of fungi in 1997, her work was largely dismissed.But today, as a Professor of Forest Ecology at the University of British Columbia, her work is recognised as pioneering within...
05.12.2023
Azeem Rafiq on tackling racism in cricket, losing his son, and facing his own failures
In 2017, Azeem Rafiq’s world collapsed around him. He lost his baby son, and shortly after, the career that he had worked his entire life for, after he blew the whistle on racism and bullying at Yorkshire County Cricket Club....
04.07.2023
Actor Eddie Marsan on the struggles of being a working class actor and the tyranny of toxic masculinity
He is an actor who would be hard to typecast, but Eddie Marsan always plays the villain. “I think it has a lot to do with my upbringing”, he says, “there was a lot of violence, criminality and a lot...
03.31.2023
Michael Balogun on finding his purpose in prison and the power of belief
“I don't think you can expect someone to change their life by putting them in a room and locking the door.” Michael Balogun might not believe that prison “helps” people to turn their life around, but it was undoubtedly his...
03.24.2023
Gary Younge on race, Rwanda and a lifetime of writing about Black life
“On the television, they were saying we were thieves, that we were raised with no morals”. Growing up Black in 1970s Britain, writer Gary Younge didn’t feel fully accepted - he didn’t even feel British. “Someone would go, “it’s cold...
03.17.2023
Mariana Mazzucato on how governments can take back control of their contracts
How can the government attract the country’s best minds to work for them? How do we know when a private sector contract is a good one? And what can we learn from NASA about business and efficiency? Mariana Mazzucato is...
03.10.2023
Peter Frankopan on how humans have shaped the planet and how we’ll destroy ourselves
“We're the only species who have worked out to blow up everything and kill everyone”. In his latest book, The Earth Transformed, Peter Frankopan takes on the entirety of the history of planet earth, and looks at how our lives...
03.03.2023
Simon Le Bon on the secret to Duran Duran’s success and why the band shy away from politics
He’s the frontman of one of the most iconic bands of the 80s. Four decades on, Simon Le Bon says that New Wave legends Duran Duran are still going strong, making new music and announcing that they’re going on...
02.24.2023
Sebastian Payne on centre-right ideas and Britain’s political future
Sebastian Payne is an author and the Director of centre-right think tank Onward, where he explores the bigger problems and challenges facing Britain today. He recently left his post as Whitehall Editor of the Financial Times, where he spent years...
02.17.2023
Baaba Maal on the power of music and the future of Africa
“I’m a nomadic person, I don’t want to stay in one place”. When Baaba writes his music, he takes inspiration from the places he visits. “When I started travelling, I came to London, I bought cassettes, I appreciated different people....
02.03.2023
Cariad Lloyd on coping with grief and finding humour in death
“I was thinking about all my friends who launched a podcast and I thought, “if I had a podcast. I'd just talk to people about death. That's a terrible idea”.” When Cariad Lloyd’s father died of cancer when she was...
01.27.2023
Jyoti Patel on identity, belonging, and how to ask someone the question: “Where are you from?”
“I didn't write this book to be hugely sellable, hugely commercial - I wrote it because it’s a story that I felt needed to be told.” Jyoti Patel’s debut novel, ‘The Things That We Lost’ is the story of a...
01.20.2023
Frances O’Grady on strikes, single parents and the trade union movement
Frances O’Grady stepped down as the General Secretary of British Trades Union Congress at the end of 2022. She was the first woman to hold the post in TUC’s 154-year history. She is now a Labour peer in the...
01.13.2023
Rick Rubin on working with Run DMC, The Strokes, Slayer and Johnny Cash and how to be an artist
Rick Rubin is the legendary music producer who founded Def Jam records, one of the most important hip hop labels of the 80s. He has won nine Grammy awards and worked with some of the biggest artists of our...
12.23.2022
Ways to Change the World with Chatbot GPT
ChatbotGPT is a new artificial intelligence programme designed to simulate human conversation and tackle complex questions. It's made by Open AI foundation, a tech-startup co-founded by Elon Musk, and it draws on text taken from a variety of sources on...
12.16.2022
Nouriel Roubini on the ‘megathreats’ to our global economy, how to stop them and his nickname Dr Doom
Nouriel Roubini is an economist, a professor in New York, a global economic consultant and an author who, amongst many distinguishing things, was one of those who foresaw the 2008 credit crunch and financial crisis. His latest work is called...

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Ways to Change the World with Krishnan Guru-Murthy episodes:

Comedian Bassem Youssef on the Israel-Gaza war, the Arab Spring, and why we can’t change the world

Playwright of Jodie Comer's Broadway hit, Suzie Miller, on sexual assault and getting justice

Poet Nikki Giovanni on white supremacy, the Capitol attack, and teaching the Virginia Tech shooter

Armistead Maupin on trans rights and growing up gay in a homophobic household

Author Kiley Reid on Black artists, handling criticism and social media

Timpson’s boss on upside-down management and business secrets

Bernie Sanders on Gaza, genocide and Trump

Crystal Hefner on her marriage to Hugh and being ‘trapped’ in the Playboy Mansion

Hannah Ritchie on replacing eco-anxiety with 'cautious optimism' and how to build a more sustainable world

‘Deliciously’ Ella Mills on healthy eating and society's toxic relationship with ultra-processed foods

Arnold Schwarzenegger on self-help, the Israel-Gaza war and why he'd be a good US president

Samuel Kasumu, Former Special Advisor to Boris Johnson, on culture wars in government and being a Tory

Keith Allen on becoming an actor and why he would legalise drugs

Billy Porter on being a queer Black man in the music industry, the actors' strike and Trump's America

Astronaut Tim Peake on Elon Musk's SpaceX and the future of space exploration

Caster Semenya on gender fairness in athletics and what being a woman means to her

ActionAid CEO Halima Begum on siding with humanity in Israel-Gaza war and the West’s ‘moral responsibility’ to humanitarian aid

Carlo Rovelli on white holes, challenging different narratives and the need for a ‘reasonable compromise’ in the Israel-Palestine war

Mikaela Loach on fighting the climate crisis through social justice, the problem with net zero, and being a 'soft Black girl'

Yanis Varoufakis on the death of capitalism, Starmer and the tyranny of big tech

Cambridge’s youngest Black professor Jason Arday on Autism, racism, and learning to read at 18

Poet Lemn Sissay on growing up in the care system, racism and finding his Ethiopian family

Dawn Butler MP on white feminism, Sadiq Khan, and racism in Parliament

Ice Cube on the police, AI and Black business

Activist Gina Martin on changing the law on upskirting, ‘boys will be boys’, and the impact of online abuse

Poet Ben Okri on disruptive climate protests and dreaming of Nigeria

Syrian chef and refugee Imad Al Arnab on his journey from war-torn Syria to opening his dream restaurant in Soho

Wes Streeting on child poverty, coming out, and how he would run the NHS

Evgenia Kara-Murza on the fight to free Russia’s political prisoners and the dream of a democratic Russia

Barbara Kingsolver on America’s opioid crisis and classist attitudes to rural communities

Kamila Shamsie on "Googling while Muslim", Shamima Begum and the UK’s ‘racist’ immigration policy

Chris van Tulleken on how our ultra-processed diet is killing us

Sadiq Khan on climate change, immigration and London’s policing crisis

Nick Cave on free speech, his religion, and finding - and defining - happiness

Suzanne Simmard on fungal networks, ‘Mother’ trees, and restoring our forests

Azeem Rafiq on tackling racism in cricket, losing his son, and facing his own failures

Actor Eddie Marsan on the struggles of being a working class actor and the tyranny of toxic masculinity

Michael Balogun on finding his purpose in prison and the power of belief

Gary Younge on race, Rwanda and a lifetime of writing about Black life

Mariana Mazzucato on how governments can take back control of their contracts

Peter Frankopan on how humans have shaped the planet and how we’ll destroy ourselves

Simon Le Bon on the secret to Duran Duran’s success and why the band shy away from politics

Sebastian Payne on centre-right ideas and Britain’s political future

Baaba Maal on the power of music and the future of Africa

Cariad Lloyd on coping with grief and finding humour in death

Jyoti Patel on identity, belonging, and how to ask someone the question: “Where are you from?”

Frances O’Grady on strikes, single parents and the trade union movement

Rick Rubin on working with Run DMC, The Strokes, Slayer and Johnny Cash and how to be an artist

Ways to Change the World with Chatbot GPT

Nouriel Roubini on the ‘megathreats’ to our global economy, how to stop them and his nickname Dr Doom