The Leader's Journey Podcast

What We Learned Last Year


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As a learning community, we want to share some of our best resources with you, let you get to know our team a little better and give you a peek into what we’re learning. We hold a shared belief that, especially in a context where the pace of change is so rapid, ongoing learning that is fed by curiosity about what’s happening in our ministry context, is an essential way of being.

In this episode, we've gathered a handful of our teammembers toogther to talk about what we learned last year, to share a resource that will be helpful to our listeners, and to let us in on what they want to learn this year. 

Trisha Taylor

  • Learning to see her autopilot and intentionally disrupt it to "live more consciously, more thoughtfully, more awake."
  • Two tools that have helped Trisha do this have been journalling and a "professional who knows how to hold space and listen."
  • Don't Look Up [movie]

Aundrea Baker

  • Learned about emotions, the science behind emotions, and practiced "allowing myself in certain situations to feel the feelings and pass through them and get to the other side."
  • Two books were primary for me in this learning, one was Emotional Agility by Susan David, and the other one was, It's Not Always Depression by Hilary Jacobs Hendel.

Mac McCarthy 

  • Over the past year Mac has been learning "how to process pain in ministry" and setting appropriate boundaries. 
  • Two resources that have helped Mac work through this learning has been a coach and resources from Dan White Jr. and The Kineo Center
  • This year he is planning to do a deep dive with his team into a leadership model that includes both men and women working together using Better Together

Tim McGee

  • This past year Tim has focused a lot of his learning on the power of clarity on communication and design. 
  • "Clear is Kind" by Brene Brown
  • A book that has helped Tim process and practice this over the past year was Strategy is Your Words by Mark Pollard

Dawn Bird

  • This past year Dawn has been learning to be compassionate with herself around patterns in some of her closest relationships. 
  • Two resources that have helped Dawn explore this has been an episode of the We Can Do Hard Things podcast titled Breaking Cycles & Reparenting Yourself with Dr. Becky Kennedy and the book Good Inside by Dr. Becky Kennedy
  • Hello, Molly! [memoir]

Victor Chiao

  • Victor said this past year he has been learning how to practice courage and draw from his guiding principles in the face of anxious situations.
  • And while he says he didn't have any tangible resources he offered these thoughts, "find others with a shared vision, a community that fosters safety, that allows you...to lean into those areas of discomfort and to have a chance to choose courage."
  • Another way he is planning to lean into discomfort is by up Jiujitsu this year. 

Jim Herrington

  • This past year Jim has been deepening his learning around trauma and exploring the connections between trauma and family systems. 
  • A couple resources Jim mentioned in the episode were, 
  •  In The Realm of Hungry Ghosts by Gabor Mate M.D., The Wisdom of Trauma by Gabor Mate M.D., and Amazing Place Family Caregiver Support Resources

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